Museums with Luftwaffe aircraft

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'clock High!:

Marcus Wendel
Museums & Memorials
Sat Jul 15 15:36:15 2000


I'm working on a listing of all museums with German WW2 equipment.
The info I have so far is published here: http://www.skalman.nu/third-reich/museums.htm

Any additional info on related museums and/or memorials would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

/Marcus

[Jaap Woortman]

Army Museum in the Netherlands.

The Army Museum is called and located:

Legermuseum
Korte Geer 1
2611 CA Delft
The Netherlands

Phone : +31 15 2150500
Fax : +31 15 2150544
URL : www.legermuseum.nl/ (http://www.legermuseum.nl/)

Open from Monday till Friday 10.00 - 17.00 hrs. and at Saturday and Sunday from 12.00 - 17.00 hrs.
The museum is on 5 min. walking distance from the railway station Delft-Central. Leave the railway station at the city-side, walk over the "Westvest" with tramrails. Walk straight on and trought the "Barberasteeg", over the bridge and before the second bridge turn right. This is the "Korte Geer".

One of the pieces in the collection is a V-2 and a manned V-1.

Jaap


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[Jaap Woortman]

Military Aviation Museum in the Netherlands.

Militaire Luchtvaart Museum
Kamp van Zeist 2-4
3769 DL Soesterberg
P.O.Box 184
3769 ZK Soesterberg
Phone : +31 346-353815
Fax : +31 346-351143
E-mail: info@mlm.af.disp.mindef.nl
URL : www.mil.mindef.nl (http://www.mil.mindef.nl)

This is the official Dutch Air Force Museum. The museum is open at Tuesday till Friday from 10.00 till 16.30 hrs. At Sunday from 12.00 till 16.30 hrs.
You can reach the museum by car from highway A-28, exit nr.4 Soest/Soesterberg and follow the signs.
Public transport: Railway Station Amersfoort or Utrecht, Midnet coach 56 to the Kampweg Soesterberg and then a 10 min. walk, along the beautiful Luftwaffe Officers Mess from 1940-1945.

They have, besides the planes form the RDAF, a V-1 in their collection and several parts from crashed planes from WW II.

Jaap

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[Jaap Woortman]

The Royal Museum of the Army and Military History in Belgium.

This museum is located at:
Royal Museum of the Army and Military History
Jubelpark 3
B-1000 Brussels
Belgium.

Phone : +32 2 7377833(reception)
+32 2 7377807(Public Relations)
Fax : +32 2 7377802
+32 2 7345421
URL: www.klm-mra.be/ (http://www.klm-mra.be/)

You can reach the museum by train from Merode or Schuman Train Station. By Underground(Metro) from Merode or Schuman Train Station(Line 1). By tram number 81. By Bus numbers 20, 28, 36, 67 or 80. By car see map at the website.

The collection of the museum has:
- Fieseler Fi156C-3 Storch 'KR+QX'
- Bücker Bü181B Bestmann 'TP+CP'

See also FlyPast No.215 from July 1999. Page 98 till 103.

Jaap

[Richard T Eger]

Complementing Marcus Wendel's Museums & Memorials page on his Third Reich Factbook website is Mikael Olrog's Preserved Axis Aircraft Throughout the World website.

Where the museums and memorials page looks at these facilities country by country, noting the aircraft in each museum or memorial, Mikael's website organizes by type of aircraft, engine, or missile, noting at which museums or other facility these are located at.

The address for Mikael's website is: http://www.axisaircraft.com

Regards,
Richard

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[Jaap Woortman]

National War and Resistance Museum Overloon, Netherlands.

National War and Resistance Museum
Museumpark 1
5825 AM Overloon
The Netherlands
Phone : +31 478-641820
Fax : +31 478-642405
E-mail: Overloon@oorlogsmuseum-overloon.nl
URL : www.oorlogsmuseum-overloon.nl (http://www.oorlogsmuseum-overloon.nl)

Opening times daily:
from September till May from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m.
from June till August from 9.30 a.m. to 6 p.m.
Accessible by train via Venray train station and train taxi.

In the collection they have an Renault FT-18 tank used at Volkel airbase for towing planes.

[Jaap Woortman]

Dutch National Aviation Museum Aviodome-Schiphol.

Nationaal Luchtvaartmuseum Aviodome-Schiphol
Westelijke Randweg 201
1118 CT Luchthaven Schiphol
Phone : +31 20-4068000
Fax : +31 20-4068001
E-mail: info@aviodome.nl
URL : www.aviodome.nl/ (http://www.aviodome.nl/)

[Richard T Eger]

Peter Evans' Luftwaffe Experten Mailing List website has a Worldwide Captive Luftwaffe webpage listing, by aircraft type, Luftwaffe aircraft in museums or other facilities around the world. In this regard, the listing is very similar to that provided in Mikael Olrog's Preserved Axis Aircraft Throughout the World website. The URL for the Worldwide Captive Luftwaffe webpage is:

http://www.experten.fsnet.co.uk/restore.html

Regards,
Richard

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[Richard T Eger]

The Hugo Junkers Homepage by Horst Zoeller presents information and photos of Remaining Junkers Aircraft Worldwide, including engines. There are numerous photos of Junkers aircraft and engines both in museums and at crash sites, some of them under water. The website URL is:

http://www.junkers.de.vu

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

The website A Detailed Look At The Messerschmitt Bf109, by Matt C. Bole, presents exhaustive coverage of the Bf 109. The URL is:


http://members.aol.com/bf109gust/


Of particular interest to the preserved aircraft aficionado is an extensive listing of surviving Bf 109's, HA-1112's, and CS-199's.

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

The website Dornier Do-24, by Andre de Zwart, mentions a Do-24 at the Militair Luchtvaart Museum at Soesterberg in The Netherlands. The Do-24 is on loan from the RAF Museum at Hendon in England. The website address is:

http://www.dornier24.com/

The mention will be found in the section entitled "musea". Fifty-two color and 4 black & white photos are presented.

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

Rod Larson has created the WarBirds Photo website with some excellent coverage of Japanese aircraft from WW II, as well as specialized coverage of 5 Luftwaffe aircraft. His website address is:

http://www.warbirdpix.com/index.html

My interest in Japanese WW II aircraft centers on the advanced jet and rocket types, in part because at least 2 of these can trace their ancestry to German designs.

The sections of the site are:

1,249 WWII Japanese Aircraft Photos

Aircraft of specific interest re. the above:

J8M1 Shusui Sword Stroke (Komet) - 17 B&W photos, 3 of which show the aircraft in flight
Kikka Orange Blossom - 16 B&W photos, 1 showing the aircraft at take-off or landing.
MXY7 Ohka Cherry Blossom (Baka) - 15 B&W photos, 1 of a possible 2-man version

Selected WWII German Aircraft Photos: DO-335, FW-190, FW-200, Me-262,& Me-323

Do 335 - 65 B&W photos, 4 in flight; 6 color photos of the NASM Garber facility aircraft VG+PH (102), 1 WW II era color photo
Fw 190 - 18 B&W photos
Fw 200 - 5 B&W photos
Me 262 - 5 B&W photos
Me 323 - 3 B&W, 1 color photo

San Diego AeroSpace Museum

Me 109 - 2 color photos
Fi 156 - 2 color photos

Planes of Fame Museum, Chino, CA

Buchon Me 109 - 2 color photos
He 162 - 2 color photos
Me 163 - 3 color photos
Me 262 - 2 color photos
Natter - 1 color photo
V-1 - 2 color photos
Japanese J8M1 Shusui - 1 color photo

Museum of Flying, Santa Monica, CA

Me 109 - 8 color photos
Me 163 rocket motor - 1 color photo

Auckland Domain Museum & Museum of Transportation, Auckland, New Zealand

V-1 - 1 color photo

Yasakuni Shrine in Ichigaya, a suburb of Tokyo

MXY7 Ohka Cherry Blossom Bomb - 17 color photos

Fleming Fly2K Air Show, St. Paul, MN

Ju 52 of Confederate Air force - 22 color photos

Amsterdam Schipol Airport Museum - Aviadome, Amsterdam, Netherlands or, alternatively, Luchtvaartmuseum Aviadome - Schipol, Netherlands

V-1 - 10 color photos

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

Jon Gant claims for his Messerschmitt Bf 109 website that it is the most authoritative site on the Bf 109. Having now reviewed it, I believe he certainly is in competition for that title. His site address is:

http://www.bf109.com/frameset.html

The sections of the site are as follows:

Site Articles

Messerschmitt Bf 109: The Beginning - Very short article with 2 color drawings and a b&w side view drawing.

Bf 109 Armament, by Tony Williams - Discusses the various armaments used by the Bf 109. A link labelled "armament" at the bottom of the article leads to significantly more information.

Hans Dittes 'Black 2' - Includes 3 color photos.

Preservation of Leather Artifacts: US Air Force Museum

Bf 109 Replica Project - Jon's ambition to build a replica. A link to an article on the Dakota Bf 109 replica tells the story of this interesting project, along with several color photos.

Meeting Franz Stigler, by Markus and Ryan Muntener - Short interview with 1 color and 2 b&w photos.

Bf109 Variant Evolution Information - Production numbers and list of variants with short description of what was unique about each one. Includes photos and drawings of some of the variants.

Messerschmitt Bf 109 Foreign Variations - Useage by Bulgaria, Croatia, Czechoslovakia, and Spain. Some tabular data.

Performance Statistics of the Bf 109 - Technical and performance information for the Bf 109V1, V3, B-2, E-4, F-3, G-6, and K-4. Five b&w photos.

Engine Construction Information - Technical information on the DB 600, DB 601, and DB 605. One b&w drawing, 1 color photo. Link to article on DB 601 and DB 605 with technical information, b&w drawing, and cutaway line drawing.

Armament Information - Table and description of armament used, color photo of amunition, table by variant indicating armament used along with history of useage, and two phantom drawings of amunition.

Pilots Manuals - Acrobat downloadable manuals for the Bf 109E, G-2, and K-4, along with English translations of the G-2 and K-4 manuals.

Flying the Messerschmitt Bf 109

RAE evaluation

Mark Hanna's commentary

Comments by 3 Luftwaffe pilots

Includes 3 color photos.

Photo Gallery

<U>Favourite Images</U>

MBB Bf 109G - 1 color photo
Bf 109G-2 'Black 6', WN 10639 - 2 color photos
Aerial shot, possibly of Black 2 - 1 color photo
Head-on cockpit - 2 b&w shots
Bf 109G-6 (D-FMBB) - 2 color photos

<U>Assorted 109 Images</U> - 3 color, 4 b&w photos

<U>Duxford Museum Visit (Nov' 2000)</U> - 5 color photos

<U>Deutsches Museum Visit</U>

BF 109E-3, WN 790 - 4 color photos
Ju 52 - 1 color photo
Me 163 - 1 color photo
Me 262 - 2 color photos
DB engine - 1 color photo

<U>The Art of Frank "Gray Eagle" Williamson</U> - 3 color in-flight images

Video Footage

A small video that Matt created for the site, but was not used because of bandwidth issues.

A larger movie showing archive footage of 109's taking off and in flight (with sound). Submitted by Sebastian Schweizer.

Sounds

A nice example of a 109 flypast, gives a great sense of the Daimler Benz's immense power.

Survivors News - News on Bf 109 airframes around the world. One fascinating color photo of 3 Me 262 fuselages.

Airworthy Messerschmit Bf 109 Survivors - Table listing 8 aircraft.

Static/Under Restoration Bf 109 Survivors - Large listing of survivors.

Message Board - Forum requiring membership.

Links - Five listed.

Bibliography - Ten references listed.

Regards,
Richard

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[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Dave Pawlikowski
He-177 in a museum?
Sat Jun 2 01:04:53 2001


Did any He-177 survive the conflict and end up in a museum afterward?

Was the plane tested by the Allies after WW2? Saved, scrapped,or other?

TIA

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Mikael Olrog
Some remains
Sat Jun 2 14:40:03 2001


You can see photos of two different He 177 undercarriages on my site as well as a photo of a DB 610 preserved in England.

www.algonet.se/~molrog/ (http://www.algonet.se/~molrog/)

Go to the section /german aircraft/relics/ and
/german aircraft/engines/DaimlerBenz/

/Mikael

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Aircraft Recovry Group 1940-1945
Airwar museum in Holland
Wed Dec 12 11:27:16 2001


Our museum is located close to Amsterdam, we have a lot of parts of crashed fighters/bombers (German, American, RAF and Soviet). We are a non-profit organisation and we also do a lot of research concerning missing pilots. Have a look at our site! http://home.hetnet.nl/~arg1940-1945

(This is a Dutch language site. The site has moved from the address noted above. The address I finally landed on for the site is:

http://www.arg1940-1945.nl/pages/inhoudsopgave.htm

Besides the museum, there is reference to a recovered Bf 110 at Abbenes with color profile and operational data. Another aircraft, a Bf 109, is noted at Heemskirk, but no further info is given.

Regards,
Richard)

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Carl
fw190 a8 excavation, vriezenveen NL
Thu Dec 13 18:38:48 2001


at this moment the dutch army explosive clearing group is
excavating an fw190 a8 of the 14 staffel jg54 "grunherz" it was shotdown by a p47 d thunderbolt on 21 september 44 it had taken of from plantlunne airfield, my question is can anyone provide me with information about this particular aircraft and who flew it, all information will be highly appreciated,

best regards

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

John Beaman
Re: fw190 a8 excavation, vriezenveen NL
Thu Dec 13 19:12:33 2001


How about:
Fw190A-8 WNr 171086 flown by Uffz. Richard Guse, 14./ JG54, schwarze 8 + ~, MIA after Luftkampf with 60 P-47s in the Arnheim area.

If the aircraft plate has been found can you share the data on it with us?

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

John Manrho
Fw 190A-8, IV./JG 54
Thu Dec 13 21:59:24 2001


Although Vriezenveen is almost in my backyard, I unfortunately had no time to check on the recovery of this a/c. Until further evidence I presume this is the Fw 190 of Ofhr. Hans-Georg Baur-Bargehr of 14./JG 54. Ofhr. Baur-Bargehr baled out and was slightly injured. No Werknummer is known of his Focke Wulf lost on 21st September. Ofhr. Baur-Bargehr flew as Kettenführer of Uffz. Richard Guse (still missing on 21.9.44, crashsite unknown) and Fw. Josef Jost (shot down on 21st September and died of wounds on 23.9.1944). Ofhr. Baur-Bargehr was later killed on 27.12.1944.

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

carl
fw190 a8 Vriezeveen
Sat Dec 15 11:48:42 2001


i will try to get some information about the a/c from the dutch air force and put it right here

[Richard T Eger]

The Virtual Aviation Museum website's strength is in its listing of aviation museums in Europe. While there is the occasional photo and minimal technical and historical detail, these are not the site's strengths. The address of the site is:

http://www.luftfahrtmuseum.com/htmi/general/i.htm


Sections of Luftwaffe interest:


<U>Aircraft types</U>

Listed by name, designer, and category, a broad, but light depth coverage is made of much of the world's aircraft output.


<U>References</U>

Currently, there is only a listing of magazines worldwide. The intent is to add sections on famous aviators and a dictionary of aviation terms.


<U>Museums in Europe</U>

Belgium

<U>Musée Royal de l'Armée et d'Histoire Militaire, Brussels</U>

Kassel 12
Bücker Bü 181 Bestmann, 00-RVA
Fieseler Fi 156 Storch, 374 , F-BFGD
Grunau Baby 3, 8255 , PL-37
Grunau Baby, PL-33
Grunau Baby, PL-36
Nord 1002 Pingouin, 184, W/H 2194 / F-BERF
Stamer Lippisch Schulgleiter 38 glider for basic flight instruction, PL21
Wolf Hirth G-4 Gövier III soaring glider, OO-ZPJ

The Netherlands

<U>Aviodome, Schiphol / Amsterdam</U>

Fieseler Fi 103 V 1 flying bomb
Grunau Baby II, 6052, PH-170
Stamer Lippisch Zögling training glider

<U>Luchtmachtmuseum, Kamp van Zeist (Soesterberg)</U>

Dornier Do 24 flying boat for transport, sea surveillance and search and rescue


Regards,
Richard

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[Philippe DE MEULDER]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Richard T Eger:
...Belgium

<U>Musée Royal de l'Armée et d'Histoire Militaire, Brussels</U>

Kassel 12
Bücker Bü 181 Bestmann, 00-RVA
Fieseler Fi 156 Storch, 374 , F-BFGD
Grunau Baby 3, 8255 , PL-37
Grunau Baby, PL-33
Grunau Baby, PL-36
Nord 1002 Pingouin, 184, W/H 2194 / F-BERF
Stamer Lippisch Schulgleiter 38 glider for basic flight instruction, PL21
Wolf Hirth G-4 Gövier III soaring glider, OO-ZPJ
...


Recently added to the collection:

Ju 52 in Lufthansa colours. :

Taken from Aeroplane Monthly, Feb. 2002 issue

“Junkers über alles in Belgium

THE LATEST EXHIBIT to join the the Brussels Air Museum section, an ex?Portuguese Air Force Junkers Ju 52, went on display, mounted 20ft above the museum floor, at the impressive Parc du Cinquantenaire building on November 5, following the completion of its restoration by Museum staff at the Belgian Air Force Base Brustem. The Junkers, which was delivered to the Portuguese Air Force with the serial 6309 in 1937 arrived in Belgium from Portuguese Air Force Museum storage yard at Alverca in April 1985. A rebuild Io flying condition was initiated by the Sabena Old Timers organisation
(which has since become best known for the operation of Westland Lysander 00?SOT), but in the late 1990s plans for the machine were changed, and the Junkers was transferred to the Air Museum team for static restoration, Following completion in early 2001, several colour schemes were under consideration for the Junkers, with both Belgian Air Force and Sabena markings coming under discussion before a standard Junkers factory finish was adopted….”