Luftwaffe Planquadrate map system

[Richard T Eger]

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Manfred
Who knows Luftwaffe Planquadrate ?
Thu Feb 22 08:28:12 2001


Hi Experts out there!

I'ts me again

I've got a question concerning the Planquadrate of the Luftwaffe during WWII.

Does anybody know the definition of one Planquadrat (size)
and how to find a specific one (best would be a map)

Example: Planquadrat GB 3

Many TIA
Horrido!

Manfred

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John Beaman
map system
Thu Feb 22 12:39:41 2001


Try Andreas Brekken's site

http://www.stormbirds.com/eagles/

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Manfred Winkler
Thanks!
Thu Feb 22 13:06:33 2001


Hi John,

Thank's a lot, that's another great site!
I think I'll get my info there.

kind regards
Manfred

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Richard T. Eger
map system - supplemental details & research example
Fri Feb 23 02:21:54 2001


Dear Manfred,

There may be information that supplements Andreas's at www.lwag.org. (http://www.lwag.org.) Look under the forum "Airfields & Mapping". Also, there is a great topic on the
"References and Reference Material" forum showing a terrific piece of research done by Rod Mackenzie utilizing a map. The topic title is: "R.A.F. Bomber Command
losses and Nachtjägd Abslusse claims for 16th/17th March 1945". Rod gives background information as to the resources he used to create his superb map detailing a
single R.A.F. bombing run.

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Manfred Winkler
Really Great!
Fri Feb 23 08:20:02 2001


Hi Richard,

These are really great links. Thank you very much!

kind regards
Manfred

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Marko Jeras
Luftwaffe Pl.Q. system for Cuban and Crimea in 1943
Sat May 26 13:00:16 2001


Hi everybody!
In several documents related to 15./JG 52 I found designations of the place of downing of plane as Pl.Q. (beeing-Platz Quadrant?). Does anyone have a map of Cuban and Crimea area with such grid desigantion marked on map? Thank you and best regards,

Marko Jeras
Zagreb, Croatia

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Larry
Re: Luftwaffe Pl.Q. system for Cuban and Crimea in 1943
Sat May 26 18:04:33 2001


That's Planquadrat (Pl.Qu.) and usually based on the Deutschen Heereskarte, Flieger-Ausgabe 1 : 300,000 scale (1 cm = 3 km).
Many of us have been looking for a set of these that cover the former USSR and eastern European area for many years. I've even gone to the Maps Division of the U.S. Library of Congress and to the Cartographic Branch of the U.S. National Archives and looked through their holdings, but with little luck. They have a few scattered sheets that were captured during the war, but no complete sets of this edition. The few sheets that they do have are for areas other than Russia.
If you are able to locate a full set of these in a library or archive somewhere, please share the information as to
where you found them.
Good luck!
(Larry)

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anders
PLanquadrant??..
Tue Jan 22 07:19:10 2002


anyone got maps of Luftwaffes planquadrant??


i.e were is Raum 6b???

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Chris Goss
Re: PLanquadrant??..
Tue Jan 22 18:09:49 2002


I have just got a PlQ map which shows Brittany to UK to Norway to western Germany.

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Simon Kularatne
Planquadrates
Tue Jan 22 21:27:48 2002


Anders,

There is a usable map (just)entitled:

NachtjagdnavigationsKarte

printed in the back of Night Fighters- Hunters of the Reich by David P Williams, Tempus 2001 ISBN 0752420275.

If anybody has a source for a large scale version I am in the market.

Simon

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Anonymous
THX
Tue Jan 22 21:30:14 2002


ok,,TY

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morten moe
Planquadrat
Tue Jan 22 18:16:29 2002


Raum 6b - something must be missing in this position-code..

Have you checked this site:
http://www.stormbirds.com/eagles/

See under research - Gradnetzverfahren,

Morten

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anders
Thank You..
Tue Jan 22 21:40:12 2002


thx a lot...

god bless the net

isn't this fascinating,,we all meet here in non physical
world and exchange information,,ask questions,,help
each other out,, K off this boards subjects but still http://www.lwag.org/ubb/smile.gif

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Luis Tavares
Luftwaffe grid system
Fri Feb 15 22:40:22 2002
194.65.14.67

I have the excellent book "Bloody Biscay" (First and second Edition).
However, doing research on Luftwaffe aircraft downed around the Iberian peninsula I am not able to translate the Luftwaffe grid coordinates given in the book to Greenwich latitude and longitude.

Can anyone help ?

Thanks in advance

Luis Tavares

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Anders Näslund
Gradnetzmeldeverfahren
Fri Feb 15 23:30:40 2002
212.217.133.53

try this link http://www.stormbirds.com/eagles/

and go to Gradnetzmeldeverfahren maybe it helps,,,,,

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Luis Tavares
Luftwaffe grid system
Sat Feb 16 10:17:47 2002
194.65.14.76

Thanks a lort for your help. I think your article will answer my needs. Thanks again

Luis

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Luis Tavares
Luftwaffe grid system
Sun Feb 17 19:44:52 2002
194.65.14.67

Anders:

Reading carefully through your interesting document, I noticed that you mention that by the end of April 1943 the system was changed to another called Jagdtrapeze.
I have another book "U-Boat versus aircraft " author Norman Franks, where another system is used- with quadrants referenced by two letters : for instance the zone west of the Portuguese coast is covered by a square with the letters CG and the Mediterranean Sea by three squares - CH,CJ and CN. Do you know if this corresponds to the second system ?

Luis

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Chris Goss
Re: Luftwaffe grid system
Sat Feb 16 08:40:38 2002
62.60.35.35

Luis-you would need to have a Planquadrat map; I have one for Brittany northwards but had to make on of the Bay of Biscay myself so an accurate lat and long is hard to achieve. However, I can help if I can and thanks for the nice comments about my book!

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Luis Tavares
Luftwaffe grid system
Sat Feb 16 10:21:53 2002
194.65.14.76

Chris:

Thanks for your rapid answer. I think for the moment the answer from Anders Naslund and his article will solve my problem. Anyway I would like very much to excahnge some views with you concerning some points of your book.
My e-mail is
qmpltavares@mail.telepac.pt


Waiting your contact

Best Regards

Luis

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Don Caldwell
A map will be available on-line soon...
Mon Feb 18 14:17:30 2002
204.136.184.34

...as part of a general upgrading of the JG 26 site, http://jg26.cjb.net . Les is still working on it, but the drafts look great. Unfortunately, I don't think it extends as far west as the Bay of Biscay. Oh, well....

Don