Luftwaffe Planquadrate map system - 2

[Richard T Eger]

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Martin Crawford
Fighter grid
Sun Apr 14 11:23:26 2002
205.56.210.34

Is there a reference that would show the fighter grid in either the Gradnetz or Jagdtrapez, in a map diagram?

[Richard T Eger]

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Don Caldwell
Coming soon....
Sun Apr 14 23:42:27 2002
216.176.24.252

...on the JG 26 site ( http://jg26.cjb.net ). Les has the grid drawn on a map of Western Europe (as far east as the longitude of the prewar German border) and has transfered the locations on the end papers of the JG 26 War Diary. I've requested more locations in Germany, Austria, Hungary, etc. and it's my job to provide them. I'm the hold up -- it'll probably be another couple of weeks.

HTH

Don

[Richard T Eger]

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LwFlieger
Grid maps
Fri Apr 19 05:25:15 2002
152.163.195.194

I know this isn't quite your area but perchance do you know where to find grid/quadrant maps for the Eastern Front, especially the North and Central Sectors ???

[Richard T Eger]

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Don Caldwell
The Ostfront grid map was different....
Mon Apr 22 02:18:28 2002
216.176.24.252

...as I'm sure you know. I haven't seen one. It's possible that an Ostfront expert such as Christer may have one, and will publish it.

Don Caldwell

[Richard T Eger]

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LwFlieger
East Front Grid Maps
Tue Apr 23 03:19:13 2002
205.188.198.159

We can only hope. So many loss and action reports make reference to them that it would be helpful.

[Richard T Eger]

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David
Map Quadrants used in the North Sea
Mon Aug 5 13:08:32 2002
62.254.64.6

Hi
can anyone supply details about Map Quadrants used by the Luftwaffe to mark out the sections of the North Sea and English Coast Line
ty
David

[Richard T Eger]

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Chris Goss
chrisallygoss@tinyworld.co.uk
Re: Map Quadrants used in the North Sea
Mon Aug 5 18:28:36 2002
80.40.88.124

I have an original PlQ map so if you have questions, I can hopefully answer them

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David
Map Quadrants
Mon Aug 5 19:32:19 2002
62.254.64.6

Hi
ty for your quick response I'm interested in the East Coast UK

[Richard T Eger]

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Chris Goss
Re: Map Quadrants
Mon Aug 5 21:07:00 2002
80.40.79.101

East Coast England ranges from squares 05 Ost 03, 05 Ost 13 and 05 Ost 12

[Richard T Eger]

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David
Map Quadrants North sea UK
Tue Aug 6 08:47:11 2002
62.254.64.6

Hi
I am interested in the Tees Bay area Saltburn to Sunderland could / would you kindly send on a copy direct doord16@hotmail.com

[Richard T Eger]

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Chris Goss
Re: Map Quadrants North sea UK
Tue Aug 6 19:51:42 2002
80.40.83.128

David-the map is 3'by 4'and I cannot scan it!The area you are interested in is quite small as the map covers mid-Atlantic to Wurzburg and up to northern Norway

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Bill Norman
Quadraten
Tue Aug 6 17:47:37 2002
195.93.48.186

Chris, can you give geographical positions for 2687/15W, 5812/? and 5824/? (no suffix given in the reference I have. Did the KuFlGruppen operating over the North Sea use a different set of maps (and thus different sets of co-ordinates) from other Luftwaffe units operating over the same area?

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Chris Goss
Re: Quadraten
Tue Aug 6 19:49:28 2002
80.40.83.128

Bill-15W 2687 is off Tynemouth, 5812 is near Ullapool, 5824 near Dornoch. Being coastal, they tended to use the PlQ system

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Bill Norman
Re: Quadraten
Tue Aug 6 21:00:11 2002
195.93.48.157

Chris, Thanks for that. 2687 is about where I thought it might be. Very surprised about the 58s - expected them to be in Aberdeen area. Would there be 5812 and 5824 for both East and West?

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Chris Goss
Re: Quadraten
Tue Aug 6 21:10:22 2002
80.40.93.46

Bill-Aberdeen is 15W/3384. The east and west does not work as easily as it seems with PlQ-everything east of the Greenwich Meridian is Ost, west is West.15 ost would be over Germany

[Richard T Eger]

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Bill Norman
Quadraten
Wed Aug 7 08:15:26 2002
195.93.34.159

Thanks for that, Chris.

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john
Map Quadrants
Mon Aug 5 19:52:31 2002
195.92.67.69

Chris, if you have a map, would you be kind enough to show me where GR-62 is please.

John

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Chris Goss
Re: Map Quadrants
Mon Aug 5 21:05:11 2002
80.40.79.101

That isn't a PlQ reference which would read something like 26 West 6114; sorry

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john
Tks n/t
Mon Aug 5 21:29:01 2002
195.92.67.70

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Pierre Renier
GR62 Jägermeldenetzverfahren
Wed Aug 7 13:06:55 2002
213.163.193.227

Hello David

I think the reference your are looking (GR62) for comes from what is called the Jägermeldenetzverfahren.

Assuming your searching is in quadrant 15West, then it could be in either one of two place:-

a) 15W South GR62 it is located within 52°23.67’N - 52°25.00’N and 1°30.33’W - 1°30.67’W
b) 15W North GR62 it is located within 57°23.67’N - 57°25.00’N and 1°30.33’W - 1°30.67’W

Please don’t ask for an explanation, as it has got to be one of the most awkward things but there is a good explanation at this web site:-
http://www.stormbirds.com/eagles/research/gradnetz/gradnetz.html

I know that (a) is somewhere in the Midlands so (b) is the best bet, as this lies some 20 miles north east of Aberdeen.

Hope this helps

Pierre Renier

[Richard T Eger]

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David
Map Quadrants
Wed Aug 7 13:40:28 2002
62.254.64.6

Hi
ty.
the chart refs I am interested in are 54.44 N - 01.03 W this should put you in Tees Bay UK roughly on a line 218 degrees (38 Degrees from 0. N) 4. to 5 miles N.E. of the River Tees, Fair Way Buoy (the Buoy marking the start of the River channel)
ty
David

(It looks like Chris was trying to answer John's question on GR-62, which David apparently missed seeing.

Regards,
Richard)