Air Aces Home Page, by Al Magnus

[Richard T Eger]

This is likely the most extensive aces list on the web. The site address is:

http://users.accesscomm.ca/magnusfamily/airaces1.htm

Not only does Al cover the Luftwaffe in WW II with at least 2200 listings, but he covers aces of the other combatants both in WW II and in other conflicts. Add to this an extensive use of bibliographic references with links to other sites' lists and this becomes the prime reference for ace information.

Regards,
Richard

[This message has been edited by Richard T Eger (edited 08 September 2002).]

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Stefan Hrdina
German Aces in World War II
Tue Jun 5 01:34:28 2001


Hello, I have recently seen a complete list of Luftwaffe fighter aces in World War II. Truly an amazing list of who's who!!! A lot of these aces lost their lives in World War II, became POW, etc. I have a question regarding these aces. Which Allied Air force (RAF, USAAF or Soviet Air Force) claimed the most German aces? Although this question may be hard to answer for anyone, is there an assumption here? Could it be the RAF, one of the reasons being the fact that Britain was at war with Germany much longer than either Russia or America.

Please help here,

Stefan

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

John Beaman
List of aces?
Tue Jun 5 12:05:36 2001


Stefan:

I would like to know where you found a "complete" list of German Aces? To my knowledge this did not exist. It would certainly be nice if it did.

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Andrew Arthy
This list is probably the most comprehensive...
Tue Jun 5 15:07:45 2001


Hi,

I would recommend this Luftwaffe Aces List ( http://www.ww2.dk/misc/lwace2.txt ) by Jim Perry. It is very comprehensive, and has extra details like awards, units, the fate of the pilot etc. A very handy resource.

Cheers,
Andrew A.


[This message has been edited by Richard T Eger (edited 16 June 2001).]

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Jim P.
Re: This list is probably the most comprehensive...
Tue Jun 5 16:29:13 2001


Unfortunately, Mike Holm has been very busy and hasn't updated it in a while -- there are a lotta new names. Al Magnus has most of the newer stuff - though w/o some of the notes at:

http://users.accesscomm.ca/magnusfamily/airaces1.htm

[This message has been edited by Richard T Eger (edited 08 September 2002).]

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Darryl
Luftwaffe Aces
Fri Jan 18 23:04:58 2002


I have a book called Messerchmitt Aces by Walter A. Musciano that has a number of the top scoring aces in it. But what I would like to have is a book that contains all or the majority of the luftwaffe pilots. Does anyone know if such a book exists?

Darryl

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Jim P.
The best list available
Sun Jan 20 15:12:34 2002


is at http://users.accesscomm.ca/magnusfamily/airaces1.htm

As I help put much of this together from sources in my library, I think it is quite accurate, though still incomplete. My own list is at 2536 pilots, and I've got a bunch more to add from recent work.

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[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Darryl
Your site
Sun Jan 20 21:14:13 2002


Actually I have used your site for Luftwaffe pilots before and it is quite good.

Thanks

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Andy Fletcher
Alfred Günther
Fri Aug 2 14:13:32 2002
12.151.162.68


Hi All,

According to Don Caldwell's excellent JG26 War Diary Vol II Ofw Alfred Günther joined II/JG26 during Feb43 from flight training and served with 5/6//JG26 until he was KIA 15/6/44.

My query is that he has no claims listed whilst with JG26 in Caldwell's book, but in other lists of German aces he is listed as having 12 kills. If he joined JG26 from training where did he achieve his kills if not with JG26? Did he actually have any kills?

I would be grateful if anyone to clarify this dispcrepancy.

Regards

Andy Fletcher

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Tom Semenza
Alfred Günther
Fri Aug 2 17:21:07 2002
205.188.209.144

Andy,

What lists are you referring to? I have not seen Günther's name on any myself.

Regards,

Tom

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Andy Fletcher
Re: Alfred Günther
Fri Aug 2 17:31:45 2002
12.151.162.48


Hi Tom,

He's listed in the following.

http://users.accesscomm.ca/magnusfamily/ww2ger.htm

Regards

Andy Fletcher

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Tom Semenza
Magnus Ace List
Sun Aug 4 19:26:38 2002
64.12.97.6

Andy,

I should have spotted this myself. Alfred Günther's name is one of a number of questionable entries in Allen Magnus' list, which is, on the whole, excellent. I have e-mailed Allen, asking about his sources for a number of entries in the Luftwaffe ace list. He said he will respond when he gets the time. I will also provide what I feel are a large number of additions plus spelling and other corrections.

My feeling at this time is that Alfred Günther was somehow confused with Joachim Günther, who is also on the list and claimed 11 victories with JG 26 (Ref: Caldwell.) You might try e-mailing Allen yourself, via his website, to see if you can find out his sourse. Please let me know if you hear from him.

Regards,

Tom

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Andy Fletcher
Magnus Ace List
Thu Aug 8 09:52:32 2002
12.151.162.68


Hi Tom,

I came to the same conclusion as you ie that Alfred Günther has some how been confused with Joachim Günther.

As you say Allen Magnus' lists are generally excellent.

Regards

Andy