IWM microfilms of aircraft loss records of the Luftwaffe Gen.Qu.M. 6. Abt. - 3

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Gus Audiber
Max BERNHARDT??
Mon Jul 16 12:46:10 2001

Max Bernhardt pilot from JG51 (1943-1944).11 victories.
Anyone have details about his life and his history in the luftwaffe?
Thank's in advance.
Feel free to contact me by mail.
Gus.

[Richard T Eger]

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Jim P.
Re: Max BERNHARDT??
Mon Jul 16 12:55:20 2001


Fw190A-5 2687 Bernhardt, Uffz. Max 11+ 1. JG 51 wei§e 11 + 10-Aug-43 Killed in Notlandung after Luftkampf. Loss report says WNr. 2787 'wei§e 17'. Ru§land Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20; Ring, JG 51 loss list, p.51 Pl.Qu. 41892, NW of Charkow 100% F

[Richard T Eger]

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Gus Audiber
Max BERNHARDT THK'S
Mon Jul 16 13:46:56 2001


Thank you for your answer.Helpfull.
Regards
Gus.

[Richard T Eger]

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Paulo Dario
E.Albrecht and Obermaier's book help please
Wed Jul 25 18:53:30 2001


I've got a friend that's researching Egon Albrecht for an article in his famous Brazilian Aviation Magazine "Forca Aerea". After all Albrecht was born down here in Brazil !

He wrote a precise one years ago on Martin Drewes(he lives in Brazil) and I had the pleasure to be introduced to him by this friend.

All I've got is Obermaier's "Die RK..." 1966 bilingual edition, which says:

" Egon Albrecht Hauptmann *19.05.1918 Curitiba/Brasilien
RK 22.5.1943 als Oberleutnant nach 15 Luftsiegen und 11 Bodenzerstörungen.
Belonged to 9./ZG76 from 1940 and fought with this unit - renamed 6./SKG210 - from 1941 in Russia. The Knight's Cross was awarded for his outstandings successes against ground targets. He became Kommandeur II./ZG 1(formerly II./SKG210) late in 1943 and successfully led it in the Home Defence, and later(now III./JG76 / IV./JG53) against the Invasion troops.
Killed in action on 25-8-1944 when he, on a return flight, ran into a "Mustang" formation and was shot down. His body was robbed of all possessions by French Maquis.
Total of approximately 25 victories, including several four-engined"

Does Prien's JG53 volumes mention him ?
Aircraft flown and the last fateful one ?
Any kind of help would be extremely welcome...

TIA
Paulo Dario

[Richard T Eger]

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Paulo Dario
Correction
Thu Jul 26 01:25:58 2001


Probably my posting above caused some misunderstandings about the to-be article's author.

Rectifying my words:

"A friend of mine is trying to 'have' an article about Egon Albrecht published in 'his' Brazilian magazine Forca Aerea.
Particulary I don't care who writes it, since I'm pretty sure that if he decides to publish it, it's worth reading and with precise accounts."

Regards
Paulo Dario

[Richard T Eger]

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Jim P.
Re: E.Albrecht and Obermaier's book help please
Wed Jul 25 19:17:03 2001


Bf 110D-3 3666 ALBRECHT, Ltn. Egon 4. ZG 1 19-Dec-42 Bauchlandung. Ru§land Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #8)-Vol.13 Krasnodar 80% H (There may be more info on this machine in the new ZG 1 book)

Bf 109G-14 460593 ALBRECHT, Hptm. Egon 25 Stab III. JG 76 schwarze 21 + | 25-Aug-44 Kommandeur. KIA after Luftkampf with P-38s. FSA too low. RK FR Frappé, La LW face au débarquement allié, p.299, 332; Obermaier p.81 East of St. Claude/Creil 100% F

I think III./JG 76 became, or was incorporated into IV./JG 53 after Albrecht's death. A year or so ago the LW Verband had an article of on Albrecht.

[Richard T Eger]

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Paulo Dario
Thanks Jim (NT)
Thu Jul 26 01:28:40 2001

[Richard T Eger]

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Sergio Luis dos Santos
Re: E.Albrecht and Obermaier's book help please
Mon Jul 30 15:36:25 2001


Hi Jim, just a question. In your quotation for Egon Albrecht´s death, you shows he being killed by P-38. In the mentioned books I do not find any confirmation about that. Yes some planes were shot down by P-38 but Egon was returning home. A discussion at Luftwaffe Verband could not provide a conclusive match for Egon victor. I´ll try to contact John Vasco this week to see whether he discovered any new info on him.

[Richard T Eger]

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Hans Ploes
seekig info on three German aircraft
Sun Jul 29 23:10:13 2001


Can anybody provide any additional info on the following three aircraft:

Bf 109F-4 Werknummer: 12899
Ju 88A-4 Werknummer: 360175
A/C had accident on Russian front in 1943
(I believe 60%)
FW 190A-7 Werknummer: 643746
A/C probably served also on the Russian front

thanks in advance

Hans

[Richard T Eger]

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Jim P.
Re: seekig info on three German aircraft
Tue Jul 31 00:41:10 2001


Bf 109F-2 12899 5. JG 51 04-Aug-41 Fuel shortage.
Ru§land Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #4)-Vol. 6 near Scherikow 40% F
Bf 109F-2 12899 11. JG 51 10-Jun-42 Technical failure.
Ru§land Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol. 9 Smolensk 40% F

Ju 88C-6 360175 6. KG 3 30-Jul-42 Crashed due to engine trouble. Ru§land Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol.10 Schatalowka-Ost 80% F

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[Richard T Eger]

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Hans Ploes
Many thanks for the info!
Tue Jul 31 17:59:08 2001

[Richard T Eger]

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E.Arana
Bf 109 -G6 W.Nr.27803
Tue Jul 31 02:19:26 2001


Who can give me more informatons related to the loss of
these machine.It may happened on 20/Oct/1943.Did JG 2
lost more planes on that day? What planes?

[Richard T Eger]

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John Beaman
WNr 27803
Tue Jul 31 12:11:34 2001


JG 2 lists 9 G-6 aircraft lost that day in various combats or accidents. I do not have a WNr. 27803 but there is a 27083.

[Richard T Eger]

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E.Arana
Losses
Wed Aug 1 03:42:35 2001


Thanks for the imformation.Could you give the losses of
JG 2 at this day (20/Oct/1943)? I Will kindly appreciate
it.Use via e-mail if you want.

Thanks in advance.

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Jim P.
Re: Bf 109 -G6 W.Nr.27803
Tue Jul 31 15:16:22 2001


There wasn't a WNr. 27803 - there only some 180 or so machines in that series which appears to end at 27183.

Bf 109G-6/R6 27083 Hünig, Uffz. Heinz 5. JG 2 rote 12 + - DP+JC* large exhaust paint; 12 is trimmed, but not wei§ 20-Oct-43 KIA, cause unknown. FR Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.22; Ring, JG 2 loss list, p.17; Frappe, La LW en France 2.Normandie 1944 p142 foto St. Omer area 100% F

[Richard T Eger]

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s.f.polyak
Ju52 6820 Crash 23.02.45 in CZ
Tue Jul 31 04:12:07 2001


I am interested in any information on Ju 52 WNr. 6820. Need service history-with what units did this Ju 52 serve and where? Also details of its crash on 23.02.45 in Czech territory? Thank you.

Steve

[Richard T Eger]

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Jim P.
Re: Ju52 6820 Crash 23.02.45 in CZ
Sun Aug 5 01:50:11 2001


Ju 52 6820 III. KG.z.b.V. 1 30-May-42 Undercarriage damage. Mittelmeer Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #6)-Vol. 9 Castel-Benito 65% H

[Richard T Eger]

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Jim P.
Re: Bf110
Mon Aug 6 19:45:04 2001


Bf 110E-2 2430 Plath, Fw. Walter 7. NJG 3 08-Oct-43 Injured in crash. Nachtjagd Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.22 not reported 100% F

[Richard T Eger]

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Marcel Hogenhuis
Bf110
Tue Aug 7 16:33:21 2001


Hello Jim,

Could you please tell me what your remark 'not reported' in your answer means: not reported in the mfm's or the Verlustmeldungen ?

According to my 'Bf110-File' as I call it, I found another mentioning of the Bf110 (Wnr.2430) in the logbook of (Uffz.?) Reiter from the 7./NJG 3: on 12-5-1943 he flew this plane in order to practice 'Luftschiessen'. God, I love those logbooks for all the info available!

Best wishes, Marcel Hogenhuis
Study Group Venlo Airfield in WW-2

[Richard T Eger]

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Jim P.
Re: Bf110
Wed Aug 8 15:57:14 2001


I think that's in the location column. Means location not reported -- sometimes noted in the loss data, in Deutsch of course!!

[Richard T Eger]

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Jim P.
Re: Related W/Nrs against Types
Thu Aug 9 01:33:54 2001


Me 410A-1 420022 V. KG 2 26-Nov-43 Bombenwurf. Kanal Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #12)-Vol. 23; Balke, Der Luftkrieg in Europa, p.470 Fl.Pl. Epinoy 100% F

[Jörg Meincke]

For Jim P.:
The W.Nr. 460 593 (or the loss date) from the a/c of Hptm. Egon Albrecht in Obermaier's book can't be right. The acceptance flight date by BAL was the 30.08.1944, the loss date 25.08.1944. It's impossible that an a/c was shot down 5 days before it was accepted by BAL.

For s.f.polyak:
On the site www.volny.cz/plarchiv/Stranky/Index2.html (http://www.volny.cz/plarchiv/Stranky/Index2.html) you can find more informations and photos about the crash of the Ju 52 W.Nr.6820 in Czech territory.

[Richard T Eger]

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Regards,
Richard