Bundesarchiv Aachen - 3

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Jaap Woortman
Gr.Kdr. I./KG 76 in January 1944.
Wed Nov 20 11:24:54 2002
212.153.235.100

Dear friends,

At the beginning of Operation Steinbeck, "the Baby Blitz", at 21st January 1944, I./KG 76 was located in France. It's Gruppenkdr. is unknown. Even Holm gives no information about this unit in 1944. Who can help me in finding the name of this Gr.Kdr.?

Jaap

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From TOCH!:

Larry deZeng
I./KG 76
Wed Nov 20 15:00:44 2002
64.12.97.7

Jaap -

Hptm. Helmut? Wahl, acting (Dec 43 - Jan 44)
Maj. Günther? Schulz (DKG) (Jan 44 - Jul 44)

The above is from P/W interrogations and other Allied intelligence sources, so I won't absolutely guarantee that they are correct.

Larry

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From TOCH!:

Marcel Hogenhuis
perhaps...
Thu Nov 21 12:52:57 2002
195.241.222.167

Hello Larry,

Perhaps you ever came across interrogation reports from crews belonging to III.KG 3 or I.KG 53, operating He111's with V-1's against the British isles in 1944? I have some, kindly donated by a Dutch air war researcher but these give hardly any clue's to the identities of the Staffelkapitäne.
Maybe in the perpetual maze of your wealthy knowledge, such important details have hidden themselves?

Best wishes from Venlo, Marcel Hogenhuis

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From TOCH!:

Larry deZeng
Staffelkapitäne
Thu Nov 21 14:53:42 2002
205.188.209.38

Hi, Marcel -

Thank you for the kind words. Unfortunately, I've never made a record of the Staffelkapitäne, only the Gruppenkommandeure and above. One needs to draw the line somewhere when trying to assemble organizational and operational details on the entire Luftwaffe. Besides, until 10 years ago or so when BA-ZNS started to become more cooperative with researchers, assembling the names of the thousands of Staffelkapitäne would have been an impossibility, especially from my side of the Atlantic.

Cheers,

Larry

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From TOCH!:

Jaap Woortman
Thanks Larry!!!
Fri Nov 22 16:58:10 2002
212.83.68.243

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Michael
Family members in the Luftwaffe. Could you help?
Thu Dec 12 15:22:10 2002
129.93.205.204



I have found several people with my last name that served in the Heer. My university has the records of the Air Ministry but those do not include personnel records. Does anyone in there possession have the rolls of those who served in the Luftwaffe. The last name is Schauss. If you can help or offer any suggestions please do. Thanks and have a great day.

Michael Shouse

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From TOCH!:

Sean Michael Leeman Master Blaster
You could try WASt in Berlin.
Thu Dec 12 17:30:05 2002
198.26.122.12

I have also had a bit of luck with the Bundes archive.

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From TOCH!:

Larry deZeng
Schauß
Thu Dec 12 22:10:22 2002
64.12.97.7

There was an Oblt. Jakob Schaus (one "s") who was a pilot in a Nachtjagdgeschwader and was awarded the DKG on 1 Jan 45. Other than that, your best shot is either WASt or the Bundesarchiv-Zentralnachweissstelle (BA-ZNS) in Kornelimünster bei Aachen. The latter has all of the old Luftwaffe personnel records and the former has access to them plus information on casualties.

L.

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From TOCH!:

Ged
Schauss
Sun Dec 15 03:05:39 2002
203.23.236.66

Yes, the Oblt. Jakob Schaus (one "s"), flew with NJG 4 and was a Staffelkapitan, who had (23) aerial victories before he went missing in action on 2 February 1945. That's the only Schaus that I have in my listing.

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

KC Dochtermann
sockeye@nwlink.com
How to Access Luftwaffe Archives?
Mon Feb 24 07:06:04 2003
208.187.14.176

Greetings,

We were perusing your website and were checking your Bomber section and noticed that you might want to add a new pilot.

His name is Hans Dochtermann and he was a major in the Luftwaffe. He served in many groups, on every front, from the Battle of Britain to the Mediterranean to the Eastern Front to the end of the European Theater of WWII...

He served from the beginning, with the Luftwaffe's original Condor Legion that was loaned to Franco for campaigns during the Spanish Civil War. From there he began a long road, to survive almost 2000 missions during the Reich's short lived reign.

He is responsible for the first CONFIRMED successful guided missile attack by plane. He did this as group leader of Gruppe II/KG40, stationed in Bordeaux-Merignac in November, 1943. The plane was a He 177-A5 equipped with the HS-293 "flying bomb". His plane made the strike on the F/V Rhona, which was attributed to the greatest naval loss of American life during WWII.

He also served as a test pilot during the war. He had the opportunity to test the Messerschmitt 262 and the Arado 234, among others test models.

We have more to tell about him, as we knew him well - he was a father and a grandfather in addition to being one of the greatest bomber pilots/test pilots that Goering had the good chance of securing. He was a kind man that did not seek oppression - he just wanted to fly, and fate solidified that he would.

We are searching for more information about him - We are seeking how to gain access to Luftwaffe archival information? We are looking anything that may pertain to the activities of the Kampgeschwaders that served during WWII, as we are seeking more specifics on Herr Dochtermann's activities during the long campaigns.

Any pertinent information would be most appreciated.


Best Regards,

KC Dochtermann

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From TOCH!:

Bernd Barbas
Hans Dochtermann
Mon Feb 24 13:48:25 2003
194.45.48.11

Hello Mr Dochtermann ,

if you need more information about Hans Dochtermann I would recommend the Bundesarchiv .
Bundesarchiv - Zentralnachweisstelle
Abteigarten 6
D 52076 Aachen
Tel.: +49 (0) 2408/147-0
For you are a relative , you will get the data . They will charge you about 15 - 20 Euro , about the same in $ . Price depends on the size of the file .
If you say 2000 missions , this would be , after Rudel , the second busiest pilot of the Luftwaffe . Can you send me any info ?

Bernd Barbas
Primelweg 47
D 88662 Überlingen
Germany

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From TOCH!:

KC Dochtermann
Hans Dochtermann's History
Tue Feb 25 06:51:02 2003
208.187.14.167

Greetings Bernd,

Thanks for pointing me towards the Bundesarchiv. There is much to research about my grandfather's career.

...

Best,

KC Dochtermann

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

Junker
LW-Major Trost Airfield Rye/DK??
Sun Aug 17 11:54:27 2003
80.164.73.49

Has anyone information as to this Major, who in 1945 was Kommandoführer of the airfield Rye in Denmark. I do not have his first name nor birthday, so i'm unable to ask for the personel-files in Kornelienmünster/Germany!

Junker

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

Clyde Wilson
Locate Former Luftwaffe Member
Thu Oct 23 02:16:06 2003
24.125.125.35

My college German professor was in the Luftwaffe during WW II. His name is Heinz Jurgen Griebsch. Can anyone tell me how to get info about his service record and locate his present whereabouts?

Sincerely,
Clyde Wilson

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From TOCH!:

Grzegorz Plonski
Wehrmacht Archives
Thu Oct 23 11:37:30 2003
217.99.2.134

You should contact the Deutsche Dienststelle (WASt), as it collect personal files. There's a special form at their web site, sadly you may not obtain the information due to privacy protection, but you can always try!

Deutsche Dienstelle (WASt)
Postfach 51 06 57
D-13400 Berlin
Deutschland

Phone: +49 (030) 41904-100
Fax: +49 (030) 41904-100

http://www.com-de.pair.com/wast

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From TOCH!:

Steve Coates
Search Request
Fri Oct 24 00:40:41 2003
81.131.71.207

You could additionally try the German telephone directory - www.telefonbuch.de . It's worked for me on a few occasions.

If he was a commissioned officer, you might also get somewhere by trying the Bundesarchiv-Zentralnachweisstelle as they hold the personnel files. they will charge for a search. The address is - Abteigarten 6, 52076 Aachen.

Steve Coates

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

Paulo Dario
G. Handrick downgraded ??
Sun Dec 28 11:05:37 2003
211.72.203.65

A strange matter caught my attention:

Handrick was replaced by Galland in JG26 by mid-40, in a process so called of "new breed" in the JGs by Goring.
Latter on he was designated to III/JG52. It looks strange, a famous character(Olympics, Spain,...), being given a Group, after being Geschwader Kommodore (??)

Any comments ??
Regards
Dario

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Andreas Brekken
andrebre@online.no
Handrick really Kommodore or i.V.?
Tue Dec 30 01:06:05 2003
80.212.196.128

Hi!

My best guess regarding this matter is that Handrick was leading the JG 26 in Vertretung until a new Kommodore was in place. He then would move on to JG 52 and eventually lead the JG 5 as a Kommodore from mid 1942.

At the time Handrick was a Major, while Galland was an Oberstleutnant.

I have found that a lot of the published unit histories, not to mention internet sites, tend to put in people in functions that they were not really in, as the Luftwaffe had a lot of people functioning in the positions of Geschwaderkommodore, Gruppenkommandeur or Staffelkapitäne, sometimes for quite a long time until a proper replacement was at hand.

The problem has of course been that the sources has not been readily available.

If You are really interested in this matter, and Handrick's career especially, I would suggest the following course of action:

Request the 'Militärische Werdegang' of Gotthard Handrick from ZNS in Aachen

Check original 'Namentliche Verlustemeldungen', loss records, for Stab JG 26 in the period. The signature will tell You if Handrick was an appointed Kommodore or in Vertretung or an officer mdWdGA.

Combining these two sources, you will be able to draw a better conclusion.

Regards,
Andreas

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From TOCH!:

Paulo Dario
Thx Andreas for the valuable info (NT) (nm)
Tue Dec 30 01:58:23 2003
211.72.203.65

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

Chris Goss
Hptm Hans-Karl KAMP
Sat Jan 10 08:00:38 2004
80.40.93.11

Kamp, formerly of I/ZG 76 and III/NJG 4, is reputed to have been killed in action in Dec 44; can anyone confirm or deny this?

[Richard T Eger]

From further within the thread on TOCH!:

Steve W.
Kamp
Sun Jan 11 11:48:44 2004
64.12.96.77

The promotion and assignment dates below are taken directly from Luftwaffenpersonalamt documents at BA-ZNS Aachen as published in "Die Dienststellen, Kommandobehörden und Truppenteile der Luftwaffe 1935-1945" (Osnabrück: Biblio Verlag, 1999) by Christian Zweng and Klaus D. Patzwall's "Die Luftwaffen-Rangliste 1945" (Norderstedt: Militair-Verlag, 1986). So these would be the "official" dates. The "actual" dates of assuming command may differ, of course, but these are almost always difficult or impossible to nail down with any certainty in the absence of the unit's records or the individual's personal diary.


KAMP, Hans-Karl. (DKG). 00.42 Oblt., Staka 7./NJG 4 (to 01.09.43?). 01.04.43 promo to Hptm. 02.09.43 Hptm., appt Kdr. III./NJG 4 (to 06.12.44). 01.08.44 promo to Maj. 07.12.44 Maj., appt Kdr. III./JG 300 (to 31.12.44 KIA). (23 victories).


Steve W.