PRO Luftwaffe loss records

[Richard T Eger]

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Eduardo
Any clue
Fri Apr 19 21:42:39 2002
200.212.9.110

Any clue on how can I get the loss list of the KG 51?

[Richard T Eger]

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Jim P.
Well, currently...
Mon Apr 22 15:45:50 2002
64.223.199.2

losses for the Battle of Britain are available through several sources, but other losses can only be had by going through the German loss records available from either the Bundesarchiv or the Public Records Office in the U.K.

[Richard T Eger]

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Angelos Mansolas
Luftwaffe fighter losses France 1944
Sun Nov 17 14:11:46 2002
195.97.118.124

Hi all,

I am searching for a list of Luftwaffe fighter losses in France during the summer of 1944 for the following dates:

22 April, 21 June, 24 June, 8 July, 8 August.

Any help would be much appreciated.

[Richard T Eger]

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Nick Beale
Losses in France
Sun Nov 17 17:44:19 2002
212.159.53.213

The Luftwaffe's aircraft loss records for 1944 have been missing since the war. The personnel casualty records have effectively closed to all but relatives of the airmen concerned by a German privacy law introduced in the early 1990s.

For dates from 6 June onward you will find much (but not all) of the information you seek in Jean-Bernard Frappé's "La Luftwaffe face au debarquement allié" (Editions Heimdal, France, 1999) however this will not necessarily cover aircraft losses where the pilot was not injured nor losses due to bombing/strafing etc.

In the Bundesarchiv at Freiburg (or in the Public Record Office, London in tranlsation) there are some records of Luftflotte 3 for the invasion period which include some figures for daily successes and losses.

These can be supplemented by reference to prisoner of war interrogation reports (held in the PRO and in America) by reports of monitored R/T traffic in the PRO and by reading through several thousand "Ultra" decrypts for the relevant period.

So there's no simple or final answer but the Frappé book is probably the best printed source you'll find.