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Richard T Eger
03-14-2003, 12:33 AM
From 12 O'Clock High!:

s.f.polyak
Me 210/410 WNr. Identification
Wed Jan 29 04:04:44 2003
205.188.209.112

Hi. I would like to know if 11052 is a possible WNr. for a Me 210 or Me 410. If this is a WNr. does any history on this airplane exist? Thank you.

Steve

Richard T Eger
03-14-2003, 12:34 AM
From TOCH!:

Olivier Lefebvre
Re: Me 210/410 WNr. Identification
Wed Jan 29 08:57:04 2003
195.132.11.199

10052 should be a "long" ME 210A-1 produced by Messerschmitt in March 1943.

Olivier

Richard T Eger
03-14-2003, 12:35 AM
From TOCH!:

s.f.polyak
Me 210 W.Nr. 10052
Wed Jan 29 20:21:02 2003
128.63.14.60

Thank you Olivier!

Richard T Eger
03-14-2003, 12:35 AM
From TOCH!:

Marcel Hogenhuis
Me210A-1
Thu Jan 30 14:23:22 2003
195.241.254.41

Hello,

On March 31, 1943, a Me210A-1 (Wnr. 11053) - Aussenstelle Riem Luftflotte 2 - made an emergency landing in/near Feldkirchen, 1 WIA, 50% damaged [source: Gen.Qm. loss lists, microfilm reel 9).
This was a Me210 A-1 type so there is a big chance that '11052' belonged to a A-1 type too.

Hope this is of some help, best wishes,

Marcel Hogenhuis
Study Group Venlo Airfield in WW-2

Richard T Eger
03-16-2003, 08:30 PM
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Eduardo Parentoni Brettas
Anton Hafner Bf109G-14?
Sat Feb 1 23:52:07 2003
200.195.72.7

Would I like to obtain more information on this Bf109G-14 (?) 1 black or 1 red?
1. Was this airplane flown by Anton Hafner?
2. Could anybody tell me which your camouflage pattern it was?
3. Spiner, the rudder of the tail and the the part of bass of the motor was yellow?
4. Where could I obtain more information as pictures of this BF109?

(Eduardo gave an address that could not be opened. Going to its root, I encountered a virus. Thus, I have deleted noting the address here.

Regards,
Richard)

Richard T Eger
03-16-2003, 08:32 PM
From TOCH!:

Jim P.
Two known Hafner planes from 1944....
Sun Feb 2 22:40:42 2003
67.242.219.247

neither of which is a G-14.

Bf 109G-6 411203 HAFNER, Ltn. Anton 204 8. JG 51 schwarze 15 + | 28-Jun-44 Injured in Notlandung due to engine trouble. Ru§land Ring, JG 51 loss list, p.53 b F

Bf 109G-6 442013 HAFNER, Oblt. Anton 204 10. JG 51 schwarze 1 + | 17-Oct-44 Stkp. KIA, flew into tree during low-level Luftkampf with Jak-9. RK Ru§land Ring, JG 51 loss list, p.54; Obermaier, p.65 Schweizersfelde 100% F

Richard T Eger
03-16-2003, 08:33 PM
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Eduardo Parentoni Brettas
Anton Hafner
Mon Feb 3 18:29:09 2003
200.195.72.7

Hi Jim,

Thank you very much for the information.
A great year of 2003 for you
Grande abraço,

Eduardo Brettas

Richard T Eger
03-17-2003, 01:16 PM
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Mark Sheppard
mark@shepsair.demon.co.uk
Fw190 A-3 'recovery' ID?
Thu Feb 6 22:26:46 2003
194.222.231.236

Hi all

Been sent some photos from a friend of a Fw190 A-3 recovery. A lot there but very broken up. Need some help on the ID

Focke-Wulf Flugzeugbau G.m.b.H Bremen
Nachbau G.F.W Kassel
190.01.37.020
Muster 190 A3
W.Nr 020
Baujahr 1942

So is this werk nummer 0130020?

020 seems a very short number.

Any help appreciated.

regards

MS

Richard T Eger
03-17-2003, 01:17 PM
From TOCH!:

Andrew Arthy
Re: Fw190 A-3 'recovery' ID?
Thu Feb 6 23:35:37 2003
144.138.73.172

Hi Mark,

Looks like it is FW 190 A-3 W.Nr 0137 020, the last FW 190 A-3 built by Fieseler at Kassel [hence G.F.W Kassel].

Do you know where the aircraft has been found? I don't have any details for it (unlike 17 other aircraft in this block).

Cheers,
Andrew A.

Richard T Eger
03-17-2003, 01:18 PM
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Rabe Anton
Fw 190A-3 Identity
Thu Feb 6 23:26:27 2003
152.163.189.68

Mark,

The Werknummer that you have presented would ordinarily be
given and written as 7020. This airplane was manufactured by the Gerhard Fieseler Werke at Kassel, apparently in 1942. Fieseler built only 20 Fw 190A-3s, their complete Werknummern being 190.013.7001-190.013.7020. Source: Peter Rodeike, Focke Wulf Jagdflugzeug Fw 190A, Fw 190 "Dora," Ta 152H (Hamburg, Germany: by the author, 1998), pp. 56-57.

RA

Richard T Eger
03-17-2003, 01:19 PM
From TOCH!:

Jim P.
Loss reported as...
Fri Feb 7 00:53:26 2003
67.242.219.133

Fw190A-2 7020 Stab JG 51 06-Jan-43 Flak. Ru§land Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #8)-Vol.13 West of Isotscha 100% F

Richard T Eger
03-17-2003, 01:19 PM
From TOCH!:

Charles Bavaroise
WNr. 7020
Fri Feb 7 06:47:04 2003
212.34.74.75

....... and its acceptance flight was 31. July 1942 at Gerhard-Fieseler-Werke Kassel. Pilot was Flugkapitän Anton Riediger.
HTH
Carl

Richard T Eger
03-17-2003, 01:20 PM
From TOCH!:

Dénes Bernád
A perfect example of teamwork...
Fri Feb 7 20:25:24 2003
204.101.53.233

...by the members of this forum. With complementary knowledge, many "tough nuts" can be cracked.
Let's keep up the good work!

Dénes

Richard T Eger
03-17-2003, 01:20 PM
From TOCH!:

Mark Sheppard
Fw190 A-3 7020
Fri Feb 7 22:56:12 2003
194.222.231.236

Hi all

Good information from everyone.

Even the canvas engine cover was recovered as well.

regards

Mark

Richard T Eger
04-09-2003, 02:13 PM
From 12 O'Clock High!:

Marko Jeras
Help ! Final loss of Bf 109 W.Nr.1461 ?
Wed Feb 26 17:37:51 2003
213.191.137.217

Any certain data on typ and units that operated this plane?

Hope to hear somebody. Thanks and best regards,

Marko

Richard T Eger
04-09-2003, 02:14 PM
From TOCH!:

Jim P.
Re: Help ! Final loss of Bf 109 W.Nr.1461 ?
Fri Feb 28 21:57:46 2003
67.242.219.148

Bf 109E-7 1461 Kaltenbach, Gefr. Josef 1. JG 54 03-Aug-41 KIA in Luftkampf. Ru§land Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #4)-Vol. 6 Pl.Qu. 18434 100% F

Richard T Eger
04-09-2003, 02:15 PM
From TOCH!:

Marko Jeras
Thanks a lot Jim! Best regards, Marko (nm)
Fri Feb 28 22:06:23 2003
195.29.54.230

Richard T Eger
04-13-2003, 12:24 PM
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Marko Jeras
Nothing on Bf 109 W.Nr.1461? Anyone, please? (nm)
Thu Feb 27 22:47:39 2003
195.29.133.222

Richard T Eger
04-13-2003, 12:25 PM
From TOCH!:

Jim P.
Posted this earlier, but then I'm a week behind.
Fri Feb 28 22:11:08 2003
67.242.219.148

Bf 109E-7 1461 Kaltenbach, Gefr. Josef 1. JG 54 03-Aug-41 KIA in Luftkampf. Ru§land Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #4)-Vol. 6 Pl.Qu. 18434 100% F

Richard T Eger
04-13-2003, 12:26 PM
From TOCH!:

Marko Jeras
Thanks a lot ! Best regards, Marko. (nm)
Fri Feb 28 22:58:09 2003
195.29.132.207

Richard T Eger
08-15-2004, 05:43 PM
This is an administrative message to place this series of topics in correct order.

Regards,
Richard