Luftwaffe museums in Germany - 9

[Richard T Eger]

The Wings on the Web website contains nearly 12,000 aircraft & missile photos. It appears that a nominal membership fee is required to view normal size images sent via email, but thumbnail photos can be viewed on the site for free. Actual prints can be purchased. The majority of photos are of museum aircraft and missiles at NASM Garber and other museums in the USA, Germany, and the United Kingdom. There are many detail shots. The site addresss is:

http://www.wingsontheweb.com/

Photos of Luftwaffe (and advanced Japanese) interest available are:

Ar 234 - 57 photos
Ba 349 - 31 photos
Bv 155 V2 - 71 photos
Bv 246 Hagelkorn - 1 photo
Bu 133C - 1 photo
Bu 181B - 1 photo
DFS 230 - 13 photos
Do 335 - 78 photos
Fi 156 - 23 photos
Fw 190 - 118 photos
Fw 44 - 1 photo
Ta 152 - 30 photos
Fw 190D - 188 photos
He 219 - 299 photos
He 111/CASA 2111 - 250 photos
He 162 - 46 photos
Hs 117 - 1 photo
Hs 298 - 1 photo
Ho IX - 223
Ho IV - 6 photos
Ju 388 - 26 photos
Ju 52 - 2 photos
Ju 87 - 29 photos
Ju 88 - 7 photos
Klemm 35-D - 11 photos
Kreider-Reisner KR-34C 1 photo
Kugisho Ohka - 21 photos
Bf 108 - 8 photos
Bf 109 - 47 photos
Bf 110 - 21 photos
Me 163 - 7 photos
Me 262 - 185 photos
Me 264 - 1 photo
Me 410 - 93 photos
Mitsubishi J8M1 Shusui - 1 photo
Nakajima Kikka - 3 photos
V-1 - 1 photo

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

andy m
Any He177 fragements anywhere...please?
Thu Mar 20 18:41:03 2003
195.92.67.66

Hi
Im trying to locate a few relic fragments of the He177 to complete a presentation for a local museum - we have examples of every Luftwaffe type that flew against Britain apart from the He177. We could afford a modest sum or would be happy to swap parts of other Luftwaffe types.
Thanks
Andy (UK)

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jerry brewer
HE-177 bits
Thu Mar 20 19:40:26 2003
195.92.67.69

Hi
Museum at Munich has parts on display recovered from a lake in late 90's.
Cheers
Jerry

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Tormod Christiansen
Just a note..
Sat Mar 22 23:43:50 2003
217.70.229.41

This is probably the nearest we come a complete He177 today. Lays somewhere in Bodensee on 160 meters. (From Flugzeuge 3/99.) Hopefully someone has got the resources to get this priceless bird up :-)

http://home.online.no/~tormchri/he177sonar.jpg

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Sergio Luis dos Santos
Hopefuly not the same team that "rescued" the Fw-200 !! (nm)
Sun Mar 23 12:59:08 2003
200.222.253.80

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Tormod Christiansen
Re: Hopefuly not the same team that "rescued" the Fw-200 !!
Mon Mar 24 14:49:37 2003
128.39.112.150

Yeah, I hope that. I'm no expert in Aircraft Salvage, but the Trondheims Fjord contains more salt than avarage. Lifting a large plane, by its tail, which had been sitting on the seabed in 60 years, *ugh*!

I actually saw the salvage, which was broadcasted through tv, and seeing the Fw-200 fall down on that barge and got crushed. I just wanted to tear my hair off :-/

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mark sheppard
He-177
Fri Mar 28 13:28:55 2003
213.122.77.87

Tormod

surprised it has not been lifted. Would have thought one of the German museums would like it although I know the Berlin Technische Museum have enough to deal with at the moment.

160m is deep but I am sure it could be recovered as with the Halifax from Norway a few years ago (and now in Canada). Would be interesting to know the condition.

regards

Mark

PS Is it definately a He-177? The wing span seem to be to short? (Not knowing about ther sonar distortion?)

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Tormod Christiansen
Re: He-177
Sat Mar 29 21:46:32 2003
217.70.229.196

Hello Mark!

Probably the best way of getting more information on this special wreck, is by contacting Flugzeuge Magazine, since this picture was from third Edition, 1999.

PS: How is the progress on the Fw200 in Technische Museum?

regards,
Tormod

[Richard T Eger]

The page http://www.cyrnus.com/images/Luftwaffe/ is an index to some Luftwaffe images. The author of this webpage never identifies himself. Going to the home page neither provides a useful title, nor direction back to this page. The title of this specific page, actually an index, is Index of /images/Luftwaffe. Subjects presented are:

Fw 190 - 2 photos
Gerhard Barkhorn - 1 photo
Personnel group photo - 1 photo
Ju 87 - 1 photo
Me 109 - 19 photos, including 7 current day photos at Speyer
Me 262 Mistel - 1 model boxtop drawing
Me 321 Zwilling - 1 photo
Me 323 - 1 three-view drawing
V2 - 1 photo and 1 bookcover photo
Miscellaneous parts - 2 or 3 photos

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

The Czech language website Historie Messerschmittu Bf 109 provides some excellent coverage of the Bf 109, especially of its engines and armament. Noteworthy, too, are the numerous video clips and photos from the Luftwaffe Museum at Berlin-Gatow. The site address is:

http://mezek.valka.cz

The sections are:

úvod - updates

Historie - Lengthy article on Bf 109 with photos.

Motory - Technical details with photos and drawings relating to the motors used in the Bf 109

Rolls-Royce Kestrel V
Junkers Jumo 210
Daimler Benz DB 600
Daimler Benz DB 601 series
Daimler Benz DB 605 series
GM 1
MW 50

Výzbroj

Kulomety - Technical details with photos of guns, ammunition, bombs, and rockets used on the Bf 109

Kanóny

Kulomet MG-17
Kulomet MG-131
Kanón MG-FF
Kanón MG-151/15
Kanón MG-151/20
Kanón MK-103
Kanón MK-108

Druhy náboju - ammunition
- MG 17
- MG 131
- MG 151/15
- MG-FF
- MG 151/20
- MK 108
- MK 103

Puma - bombs

Puma 50 kg
Puma 250 kg
Puma malé

Rakety - rockets

RZ 65
Wgr 21.

Filmotéka - Videos clips - many of gun camera film. Aircraft include Bf 109, Me 262, B-17, Spitfire, Hurricane I, F6F Hellcat (?), A6M5 Zeke, He 111, Bf 110, P-40B (?), and Ju 88.

Ostatní - This appears to be a section on miscellaneous topics.

Ceskoslovenští stíhací piloti sestrelení ve 2.sv. válce a jejich nemectí premožitelé.

stihaci - Broken down into years, this appears to be pairings of combats between Czech and German fighter pilots. Where available, photos are presented.

Zpracovaná fotodokumentace návševy leteckého muzea Berlín - Gatow - Color photos taken at the Luftwaffe Museum at Berlin-Gatow. Aircraft and engines photographed include:

Me 163 - 3 photos
Fi 156 - 1 photo
Jumo 211 - 1 photo
BMW 801 D - 1 photo
Bf 109 - 5 or 6 photos

Kdo nebyl v roce 2001 v Anglii na leteckém dni v Duxfortu a nevidel v akci létající legendy, tak si to vychutnejte - Apparently video clips taken at the 2001 airshow at Duxford. Two are of a Spitfire, 1 a B-17, and the fourth of a group of aircraft in flight.

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Roger
Me 262 crash in April 1945 at Brewitz / Salzwedel
Tue Apr 29 18:49:45 2003
62.202.24.154

Hi,

I am looking for information about a Me 262 which crashed in April 1945 (or perhaps February or March) at Brewitz / Salzwedel (North Germany). The pilot bailed out and survived. Eyewitnesses said that it was an Oberfeldwebel (Ofw) and that he shot down a USAAF bomber before he was shot down.

Is it possible to find out more about this Me 262 and its pilot with these information?

Roger

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Mark Huxtable
262 Losses
Wed Apr 30 01:02:54 2003
61.8.122.253

Try over at www.stormbirds.com - follow the links to their database of losses. It's searchable, try searching for the crash locations.

Cheers,

Mark

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Dan O'Connell
262 loss
Wed Apr 30 11:12:44 2003
65.167.70.66

I don't have anything on a loss at that location. Any possibility you can be more specific?

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Roger
Crash
Wed Apr 30 12:05:01 2003
195.49.27.71

Brewitz is a small village and it might be that the in the loss list another larger village or town is mentioned. I used mapquest to locate Brewitz and the surrounding area. Zerbst is about 20-30 kilometers away. Perhaps the 262 came from this airfield.
I will receive some crash parts of this plane (part of the wing with the Balkenkreuz). It has a greenish camouflage (perhaps 82/83). According to the person who participated at the recovery, the information came from eyewitnesses. So, the only thing that is sure is the location of the crash parts. I am not so sure if they could recall the correct month of the crash.
The fact that the pilot apparently shot down a B-17 (or another USAAF bomber) before he was shot down should make it a bit more easy to identify the pilot.

Regards,
Roger

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Dan O'Connell
262
Wed Apr 30 12:28:19 2003
65.167.70.71

Ok Roger, that does help. If Zerbst is near by, at this time frame then it was with KG(J) 54. Let me look into this, Dan

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Roger
Zerbst
Wed Apr 30 12:57:44 2003
195.49.27.71

Dan,
Thanks for your help. It would be great if you could find out something. Yesterday evening I quickly checked your database for KG(J)54 and found some entries. But I did not have time to check each location on the map. I will try again soon.
Regards,
Roger

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Dan O'Connell
262
Thu May 1 21:34:39 2003
65.167.70.66

I./KG(J) 54 had one shot down 31 March 45 at Zerbst. No other information. Sorry, it's pretty vague.

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Roger
Me 262 at Zerbst 31 March 45
Sat May 3 08:35:06 2003
213.3.91.191

Dan,
Thanks a lot for this info. I checked Classic Pub. Me 262 books and there was also just the information that it was lost close to Zerbst. But that would fit very well.
It states that they attacked US bomber formations first. Perhaps it is possible to find out if some bombers were shot down by jets? Or perhaps a gunner even claimed a jet kill?
Roger

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Dan O'Connell
sorry, no other info Roger (n/t) (nm)
Sat May 3 16:40:40 2003
65.167.70.68

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

René
Bookshops and museums Stuttgart
Wed May 7 20:41:33 2003
80.200.248.204

Hi,anyone knows if there are any bookshops and museums in or around Stuttgart?
Thanks!
Regards
René

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Tinku
not exactly in Stuttgart...
Mon May 12 09:16:42 2003
53.122.34.116

...but a 30 min drive from here, in Sinsheim:

http://www.technik-museum.de/

Check under Sinsheim

They have many aircraft and helicopters on Display, from ULs to TU 144 and B747. Obviously also WW2 aircraft and equipment, like an FW 190, Ju 52 etc.

It has been several years since I've been there, but they keep adding to their collection regularly. Some displays were "pseudo-restored" (not very accurately), but others were really nice indeed.

Tinku




. I haven't been there for many years, but I remember it iIt is worth it, though.