Wehrmachtsauskunftstelle fur Kriegeverluste und Kriegsgefangene (WASt) - 7

[Richard T Eger]

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Kenneth Miner
Looking for Werk Nummer
Sat May 3 22:43:12 2003
207.64.79.62

Does anyone know the Werk Nummer for a FW-190 flown by Unteroffizier Helmut Heckes, shotdown 26.June 1944 near Dokudowo, Poland? Any help would be appreciated.

Kenneth Miner

[Richard T Eger]

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Charles Bavaroise
WNr. Helmut Heckes
Sun May 4 10:58:57 2003
62.245.208.102

Hi Kenneth,

Heckes' a/c was a Fw 190 A7, Werknummer 643.939 built at
GFW Kassel in March 1944 and delivered around 27. March 1944.

HTH

Carl

[Richard T Eger]

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Kenneth Miner
Thanks Charles! n/t (nm)
Wed May 7 02:15:09 2003
207.64.79.107

[Richard T Eger]

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Jim P.
According to Prien
Sun May 4 16:24:01 2003
67.242.219.5

Fw190A-7 643938 Heckes, Uffz. Helmut 12. JG 11 rote 19 + | 26-Jun-44 WIA, being rammed by a Pe-2 during Luftkampf. FSA. Ostfront Prien & Rodeike, JG 1 & 11, III, p.1620 Dukodowo 100% F

[Richard T Eger]

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Kenneth Miner
Thanks Jim, very helpful! n/t (nm)
Tue May 6 00:10:45 2003
207.64.79.108

[Richard T Eger]

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Charles Bavaroise
Werknummer
Sun May 4 18:53:08 2003
62.245.161.241

Jim,

you're right: 643.938. This is from the original WASt-report. Sometimes my fingers are quicker than my brain :-).

Heckes was hit in the engine from the rear gunner of a Pe-2 he attacked and subsequently rammed his enemy.

Carl

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Kenneth Miner
Helmut Heckes' Last Mission
Tue May 6 00:07:42 2003
207.64.79.108

Charles,

I thank you for your response to my inquiry. I was told by Herr Heckes that he attacked a Lagg 5 that flew over his airfield shortly after takeoff, and he assumed a Lagg 5 had rammed his FW-190 during the same encounter. He mentions the Soviet fighters were escorting IL-2, but does not mention Pe-2 being invovled.

Thank You,

Kenneth Miner

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

Richard Goyat
II./JG 5 losses 4 August 1944
Fri May 30 14:39:08 2003
80.9.11.43

Does anybody know what were the losses of II./JG 5 on 4 August 1944? It seems that three pilots (Ofhr. Jühnemann, Uffz. Moses, Uffz. Drägert) were either killed or MIA, but was there any wounded?

Thanks in advance

[Richard T Eger]

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John Beaman
Re: II./JG 5 losses 4 August 1944
Sat May 31 12:12:36 2003
24.167.165.58

Uffz. Gustav Pitterman of 3 Staffel is listed as a WIA

[Richard T Eger]

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Richard Goyat
II./JG 5 losses 4 Aug. 1944
Sat May 31 15:38:35 2003
80.9.11.158

Thank you John

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Charles Bavaroise
II/ JG 5 losses
Sun Jun 1 16:18:09 2003
62.245.161.19

Hello Richard,

according to the "Summerische Verlustmeldungen" II./JG 5 lost 3 fighter a/c due to enemy action and another 2 went mia. I found this five persons, who piloted this a/c on that day:

5. II JG 5
Ofhr Jünemann Alexander kia
109 G6 441401 black 8
Luftkampf, Kürlitz Krs. Dannenberg

6. II JG 5
Uffz Heitmann Wilhelm wia
109 G6 441714 yellow 5
Luftkampf, parchuted, East of Salzwedel

7. II JG 5
Uffz Drägert Fritz mia
109 G6 412560 white 2
Luftkampf, Raum Salzwedel/Wittenberg

7. II JG 5
Uffz Moses Heinz mia
109 G6 441850 white 6
Luftkampf, Raum Salzwedel/Wittenberg

7. II JG 5
Fw Kunz Josef, unharmed
109 G 0 "9"
Luftkampf, parchuted, Raum Uelzen

Source is WASt and flightlog of Lt. Kunze.

HTH

Carl

[Richard T Eger]

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Ulli Aviator
Information about a relative
Thu Jun 19 17:31:01 2003
193.159.13.54

Hello,

Ive got a relative who was in the Luftwaffe in WWII.
He joined the Luftwaffe in the late 20th and was with Legion Condor in Spain. In the beginning WWII he must have been Stuka Fighter may be as Commodore or such rank.
He changed to the RLM later. After the war he joined the Bundeswehr Luftwaffe and was in the early 60's General, based on Butzweilerhof / Cologene. His Name was Arthur Paul.
Who has something about this guy, or has some idea where to search for informations

cu Ulli

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Sergio Luis dos Santos
Relative... Maybe here:
Fri Jun 20 12:44:38 2003
200.152.34.150

Deutsche Dienstelle (WAST)
http://com-de.com/wast/

Gemeinschaft der Jagdflieger
http://www.fliegergemeinschaft.de/main/german.htm

Hope other people can give you more help. Good luck!

[Richard T Eger]

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Ota Jirovec
Fw. Herbert Gumprecht
Tue Aug 19 21:08:54 2003
160.218.147.134

Hello all,

Fw. Herbert Gumprecht, 11./JG 2 pilot with at least 14 victory claims, has been shot down and killed on 16.8.1943 in Conches area. Does anybody know any further details about his loss (such as WNr., subtype, tactical code...)? Also, does anybody know which allied unit was responsible for Gumprecht´s death (if I recall correctly, Don Caldwell mentiones JG 2 tussles with 4th FG USAAF in his JG 26 War Diary - could it be this unit?)?. Many thanks in advance for any help.

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Charles Bavaroise
Gumprechts adversary
Wed Aug 20 18:18:11 2003
62.245.162.188

Hello Ota,

according to WASt Ofw. Gumprecht was shot down after contact with 60 - 80 Boeing-Fortress II 8 km NE of Conches.
He flew a Bf 109 G-6, WNr. 18.806, no tactical number reported.

11./JG 2 was subordinated to I./JG 2 during that time. This group lost at least three other pilots S of Nantes and near Le Bourget. The WASt-reports for this pilots explicitly mention combat with BF II a n d Thunderbolts. For this reason I assume, that Gumprecht was shot down by a bomber-crew.

HTH


Carl

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David Pausey
Gumprechts adversary
Thu Aug 21 15:04:55 2003
195.92.67.76

Hi Charles

RAF claims for the 16th were 3-0-5 in the following areas :-
611sqn 1-0-1 Fw190s Bernay, 308 sqn 1-Fw190 dam Bernay,
W/C Chadburn 1-Fw190 dam Beaumont-le-Roger, 331 sqn 1-0-1 Abbeville, 129sqn 1- Fw190 dam Eecloo & 124sqn 1- Me109 over I of Wight.
I would say that Gumprechts was shot down by the Americans & that the place Conches must be the one near Paris. I have I think all JG2's losses for the 16-8-43 (9-Fw190s & 4-Bf109s ?)but there are some gaps, can you help with some info ?

Best Wishes

David

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Charles Bavaroise
Losses JG 2
Thu Aug 21 18:35:54 2003
62.245.211.23

David,

16.8.43 certainly was no lucky day for JG Richthofen.
15 pilots killed or wounded and 21 a/c lost or damaged
was a heavy blow and clearly points out, what difficulties German Luftwaffe had already in 1943 fighting day-bombers protected by fighters. This is what I found:

- I - - - 190 A6 550213 unbek - - 100 unbekannt
- I - - - 190 A4 7051 bordw nl - 40
St. Clair
- I - - - 190 A6 550213 lk fsa - 100 Nantes
1 I Uffz Knöpfler Georg 190 A5 410051 lk B-17 P-47 100 Villepinte
1 I Uffz Söldner Erich 190 A5 2583 mst nl - dam Poix
1 I Oblt Müller Ferdinand 190 A6 550147 lk B-17 P-47 100 Mitry-Mory
11 I Ofw Gumprecht Herbert 109 G6 18806 lk B-17 - 100 Conches
3 I Fw Utz Wilhelm 190 A5 2628 lk B-17 P-47 100 Marly
3 I Ofw Hartmann Ludwig 190 A4 5734 lk nl - dam Le Boyrcet
3 I Ofw May Friedrich 190 A6 550213 fsa lk - 100 Mantes
3 I Uffz Herbing Paul 190 A4 2449 start fsa - 100 Vernon
12 II Uffz Simmet Franz 109 G6 18805 lk - - 100 Evreux
12 II - - - 109 G6 15652 ausbr start - 15 Evreux
12 II Fw Patz Walter 109 G6 18808 lk -- - 100 Evreux
12 II Uffz Weichert Herbert 109 G6 15422 lk - - 100 Evreux
- III - - - 190 A5 710064 bedf brl - 15 Conches
7 III Uffz Kleinert Otto 190 A5 1167 lk fsa - 100 Pontoise
7 III Fw Wolf Günter 190 A5 410017 nl unf - 100 St. Segal
10 III - - - 190 A5 1103 mst bl - 15 Evreux
10 III Uffz Schmidt Willi 190 A5 2709 lk 4-Mot - 100 Beauvais
10 III Uffz Schramm Kurt 190 A4 754 lk - - 100 Paris


HTH


Carl

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David Pausey
Sorry for the late reply,thank very much. (nm)
Sun Aug 24 19:33:17 2003
195.92.67.209

[Richard T Eger]

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kb
4FG ME109 claims on 16 Aug 1943
Fri Aug 22 05:25:30 2003
67.33.155.66

Capt Roy Evans 0940 8 mi south of Paris
Lt Aubrey Stanhope 1000 Melun-Paris area
Maj John DuFour 0930 1 mi north of Paris

Given these locations, sounds likely he encountered RAF a/c.

[Richard T Eger]

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Ota Jirovec
Many thanks, kb! (nm)
Sat Aug 23 17:23:50 2003
160.218.147.163