Museums with Luftwaffe aircraft - 2

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'clock High!:

Sergio Luis dos Santos
Some doubts on Rumanian Ju-88 A in USA
Sun Oct 22 19:57:59 2000


I have got some new info on the Junkers Ju-88 A-4 restored at USAF Museum in Ohio, USA. I'll be very please someone could correct or confirm them:
1 - Pilot's name: Some sources gives Theodore Nikolai, now I got as Nicolae Teodoru.
2 - Is truth he was a former pilot from Lares air line ?
3 - Also got the information that the number 105 given to the plane after restoration is wrong. If true what was the original one on Rumanian service?
Many thanks for any help,
Sergio Luis

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Alex Marian
Re: Some doubts on Rumanian Ju-88 A in USA
Sun Oct 22 20:14:12 2000


1-Same name one is the romanian the other is the western form
2-yes
3-don't recall

[Richard T Eger]

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Artie Bob
Ju 88 W.nr.430650
Mon Oct 23 05:15:46 2000


The RAF Crashed Enemy Aircraft report dated 26th July, 1943 is quite detailed and specific on the markings with sketches and dimensions. No mention was made of a
number on the tail. Since the report was so detailed and specific, I doubt this was an oversight. I have seen similar markings noted in other RAF reports of this type.

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Sergio Luis dos Santos
Many thanks Artie!
Mon Oct 23 13:48:21 2000


So I must redone my data for this plane! Do you know someone that could send me a copy of this document?
But there are still a mistery. Whether the plane had no numerals may we presume it was a brand new? If positive it had no radio markings too?

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Artie Bob
contd. W.nr.430650
Mon Oct 23 14:53:01 2000


The aircraft was very low time, apparently the defecting pilot picked the newest aircraft available and reportedly had only ferry and test time on it. The RAF report also notes
the Stkz, which along with the German crosses, had been overpainted, but still could be made out.

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Sergio Luis dos Santos
Great, but you know the Stkz?
Mon Oct 23 15:24:46 2000

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Artie Bob
W.nr.430650 Stkz.
Tue Oct 24 01:28:27 2000


My copy of the RAF report is really fuzzy, but it appears the the Stkz is NP+MK, the "P" and "K" are pretty clear, but the other letters might be "H" or "K".

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From TOH!:

Sergio Luis dos Santos
Thank you very much!
Tue Oct 24 02:43:31 2000

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Dénes Bernád
Ex-Rumanian Ju 88
Mon Oct 23 21:09:33 2000


First, the mentioned Ju 88, W.Nr. 430650, was a D-1 long-range recce version, not an A-4.
The pilot who defected with it on July 22, 1943 was Sergent major TR aviator Nicolae Teodoru.
The aircraft was originally part of ARR's Escadrila 2 recunoastere - 2nd Long-Range Reconnaissance Squadron, that is - based at Mariupol, in the Ukraine, at the time of
defection.
The aircraft was definitely not '105' - serial/tail number assigned for ARR bomber Ju 88As - but rather most probably '1', painted in white on tail (Rumanian recce Ju 88Ds
were coded in the 1-12 series, while bomber Ju 88As in the 100 series).
I hope the above info helps clarifying the issue you have raised.

Dénes

P.S. For further details of this Ju 88D, and Rumanian wartime aircraft in general, you may want to consult also my book: 'Rumanian Air Force. The Prime Decade
(1938-1947)', published by Squadron/Signal, last Summer.

[Richard T Eger]

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Sergio Luis dos Santos
Many thanks Dénes !!
Tue Oct 24 02:46:36 2000


Unfortunatelly I still not get his book... But it's in my wants listing! Thanks !!

[Richard T Eger]

Phil's Aircraft Page, by Phil Callihan, presents numerous color photos personally taken by Phil in museums in the U.S. and Europe. The website address is:

http://philc.ncms.org/aircrft.htm

This is a photo site. Each entry below represents 1 photo. The site has 3 main sections of interest.


WWII- Axis (Aircraft)

<u>National Air and Space Museum</u> - Washington, D.C.

Arado-234
Arado-234 (Tail Detail)
Me-109

<u>Garber Restoration Facility</u> - Silver Hill, Maryland

Arado 196
Arado-234
Arado-234 (Nose Detail)
Bachem Ba 349 "Natter"
Bachem Ba 349 "Natter" Nose Detail
BV-155
Dornier Do-335
FW-190 Bomb Detail
FW-190 Bomb Detail - 2
Gotha Go229
Gotha Go229
Gotha Go229 (Wings)
He-162 (Awaiting Restoration)
He-162 Engine
Ju-388
Ju-388 (Tail Gun Detail)
Ju-388 (Markings Detail)
Me-410
Me-410 Detail
Nakajima "Kikka" - Japanese
Nakajima "Kikka" (Engine)
Nakajima "Kikka" (Engine)
TA-152

<u>U.S. Air Force Museum</u> - Dayton, Ohio

Casa HA-1112-MIL (In Storage)
Casa HA-1112-MIL (In Storage)
FW-190
FW-190
FW-190 (Landing Gear)
Ju-52
Ju-52
Ju-88
Me-109
Me-109 (Engine)
Me-109 (Markings Detail)
Me-262
Me-262

<u>Planes of Fame Museum</u> - Chino, California

Casa HA-1112-MIL
Casa HA-1112-MIL
He-162 Salamander
Horton Ho IV
Me-109G
Me-109G (Markings Detail)
Me-109G (Nose Detail)
Me-109G (Profile)
Me-163
Me-262
Mitsubishi J8M1 Shusai (Japanese)

<u>Museum of Science and Industry</u> - Chicago, Illinois

Ju-87 (listed, but no photo)

<u>Kalamazoo Air Zoo</u> - Kalamazoo, Michigan

Casa HA-1112-MIL
Me-108

<u>Yankee Air Force Museum Air Show</u> - Willow Run, Michigan

He-111
He-111
He-111 (Cockpit)
He-111 (Landing Gear Detail)
He-111 (Markings Detail)
He-111 (Nose Detail)

<u>Science Museum</u> - London, England

Me-163 (Tail Detail)
Me-163 (Skid Detail)
Me-163 (Bottom View)

<u>Imperial War Museum</u> - London, England

He-162 Salamander

<u>Duxford Museum</u> - England

Fi-156 Storch
Fi-156 Storch (Rear View)
Me-163
Me-262 Engine

<u>RAF Museum</u> - England

FW-190 (2 Seater)
FW-190 (2 Seater - Rear View)
He-162 Salamander
He-162 Salamander (Front View)
He-162 Salamander (Nose Wheel Detail)
Ju-87 Stuka
Me-109
Me-110
Me-110

<u>Luftwaffe Museum</u> - Gatow/Berlin, Germany

Casa HA-1112-MIL
Casa HA-1112-MIL
Casa HA-1112-MIL
DFS230A
Fi-156 Storch
FW-190 D9 Engine
He-162 Engine
Me-163
Me-163
Me-163 (Launch Trolley)
Me-163 Engine
Me-262 Nose

<u>Berlin Technical Museum</u> - Berlin, Germany

Ju-87 Stuka (unrestored)
Ju-87 Stuka (unrestored)
Ju-87 Stuka (unrestored)

<u>Italian Air Force Museum</u> - Vigna di Valle/Rome, Italy

Campini-Caproni CC1 (Italian)
Campini-Caproni CC1
Campini-Caproni CC1 (Front)
Campini-Caproni CC1 (Tail)
Fi-156 Storch


Missiles/Rockets/Bombs

<u>National Air and Space Museum</u> - Washington, D.C.

V-1
V-2
V-2 (Fin Detail)

<u>Garber Restoration Facility</u> - Silver Hill, Maryland

BV 246
Henschel HS 117
Henschel HS 293
Henschel HS 298
Rheintocher R-1

<u>U.S. Air Force Museum</u> - Dayton, Ohio

Fritz Radio Guide Bomb
Ruhrstahl X-4

<u>Planes of Fame Museum</u> - Chino, California

V-1

<u>U.S. Army Ordnance Museum</u> - Aberdeen Proving Ground, Maryland

German WWII Surface-to-Air Wasserfall Missile

<u>Imperial War Museum</u> - London, England

V-2 (Engine Detail)

<u>Duxford Museum</u> - England

Fritz Radio Guided Bomb
V-1
V-1 Launching Ramp
V-1 Launching Ramp (From a Distance)

<u>Luftwaffe Museum</u> - Gatow/Berlin, Germany

Henschel HS 293


Aviation Links

<u>Museums and Government Sites</u> - About 20 listed.

<u>Personal Web Sites</u> - About 50 listed.


Regards,
Richard



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[Richard T Eger]

The website Dornier Do-24 , by Andre de Zwart, mentions the possibility of a Do-24 surviving in the U.S. The website address is:

http://www.dornier24.com/

The mention will be found in the section entitled "musea".

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'clock High!:

erwin verhaeghe
Leutnant Rudi Linz's Fw190 A-8
Sun Dec 3 23:26:33 2000


What are the colors Linz's Fw190 A-8?Is it standard 74 ,75,76 or is it 75,70,76,or something else.Is the rudder yellow or white.Was the base and time Herdla,dec. 1944
when he flew this a/c (blue 4)?

[Richard T Eger]

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Tor Gravdahl
Rudi Linz
Mon Dec 4 09:26:19 2000


The few pictures known of this bird, shaows a machine looking pretty much standard 74/75/76 with a light coloured rudder. Some sources that served on Herdla has stated
the rudder was offwhite, others yellow, thats your choise.
He was staffel kapitaen in 12./JG 5 and that unit was operating from Herdla NW of Bergen from late 1944 til the end in may '45.
The spesial markings of his "blue 4" was the name "Gretel" and a green heart like JG 54 on the left side below the windscreen.
There is a picture of in on SIG Luftwaffe Norways home page.

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Gordon
Is this "our" FW-190A-8??
Mon Dec 4 23:21:42 2000


We have one of the "Texas FW-190s" at a tiny (I mean TINY) local museum and it is a late war A-8 from JG 5 coded Blue 4. It was one of several lost on the same day and
it came down and went splat, 100% destroyed. It was not recovered until a few years ago and it has been undergoing restoration at the San Antonio air museum, which
owns a total of >2< aircraft... Pretty incredible to come around a corner and come face to face with a nearly-restored FW-190.

The museum doesn't have much in the way of historical information on their prize, at least on/near the display. I would be interested to know if this Blue 4 is Linz's
machine.

v/r
Gordon

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Andreas Brekken
Texas FW 190's
Tue Dec 5 08:19:19 2000


Hi, Gordon!

Yes, this is the same aircraft (or rather, this is what has been done to the wreckage of Linz' aircraft...)

According to an article in Jet&Prop I believe, the resulting "restoration" is a terrible mix of early and late mark FW 190 parts, making it a FW 190A-?????. But it looks nice
from a distance.

As far as I remember, the "White 1" of Werner Gayko is also in Texas, I have a video of it meeting it's former pilot, Heinz Orlowski from my recollection, the one who
ditched it, when he went to Texas to see the result of the restoration.

Andreas

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Olve Dybvig
2 x Photos of Linz's A8
Mon Dec 4 16:27:19 2000

http://home.online.no/~odybvig/Photo/image/p33.jpg

http://home.online.no/~odybvig/d07.jpg

[Richard T Eger]

Rod Larson has created the WarBirds Photo website with some excellent coverage of Japanese aircraft from WW II, as well as specialized coverage of 5 Luftwaffe aircraft. His website address is:

http://www.warbirdpix.com/index.html

My interest in Japanese WW II aircraft centers on the advanced jet and rocket types, in part because at least 2 of these can trace their ancestry to German designs.

The sections of the site are:

1,249 WWII Japanese Aircraft Photos

Aircraft of specific interest re. the above:

J8M1 Shusui Sword Stroke (Komet) - 17 B&W photos, 3 of which show the aircraft in flight
Kikka Orange Blossom - 16 B&W photos, 1 showing the aircraft at take-off or landing.
MXY7 Ohka Cherry Blossom (Baka) - 15 B&W photos, 1 of a possible 2-man version

Selected WWII German Aircraft Photos: DO-335, FW-190, FW-200, Me-262,& Me-323

Do 335 - 65 B&W photos, 4 in flight; 6 color photos of the NASM Garber facility aircraft VG+PH (102), 1 WW II era color photo
Fw 190 - 18 B&W photos
Fw 200 - 5 B&W photos
Me 262 - 5 B&W photos
Me 323 - 3 B&W, 1 color photo

San Diego AeroSpace Museum

Me 109 - 2 color photos
Fi 156 - 2 color photos

Planes of Fame Museum, Chino, CA

Buchon Me 109 - 2 color photos
He 162 - 2 color photos
Me 163 - 3 color photos
Me 262 - 2 color photos
Natter - 1 color photo
V-1 - 2 color photos
Japanese J8M1 Shusui - 1 color photo

Museum of Flying, Santa Monica, CA

Me 109 - 8 color photos
Me 163 rocket motor - 1 color photo

Auckland Domain Museum & Museum of Transportation, Auckland, New Zealand

V-1 - 1 color photo

Yasakuni Shrine in Ichigaya, a suburb of Tokyo

MXY7 Ohka Cherry Blossom Bomb - 17 color photos

Fleming Fly2K Air Show, St. Paul, MN

Ju 52 of Confederate Air force - 22 color photos

Amsterdam Schipol Airport Museum - Aviadome, Amsterdam, Netherlands or, alternatively, Luchtvaartmuseum Aviadome - Schipol, Netherlands

V-1 - 10 color photos

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

The Warbirds Resource Restoration Group section of Scott Rose' Warbirds Resource Page is devoted to information on various Restorations, Replica, or Restoration projects currently in the works. The section's website address is:

http://WWW.WARBIRDSRESOURCEGROUP.ORG/WRRG/index.html#Aircraft

Luftwaffe aircraft covered; recovery location; and restorer are:

Fw 190 A-5; St. Petersburg; Flying A Services, UK

Bf 109 F-4; Northern Russia; Warbird Recovery, Broomfield, CO

Bf 109 E-7; N/A; Warbird Recovery, Broomfield, CO

Me 163B-1a; Surrendered at Husum after war; Imperial War Museum, Duxford, England - color photo

Bf 109 G-6; Yugoslav Aeronautical Museum; Evergreen Ventures, Fort Collins, Colorado

Bf 109 G-14; Captured near Munich in Germany in 1945; Evergreen Ventures, Fort Collins, Colorado

Bf 109 E; Sussex, England, Sept. 9, 1940; Duxford, England

Fw 190 F8; airfield near Kovin in Vojvodina; Yugoslav Aeronautical Museum - B&W photo

Fw 190-A4 (Yellow 3); Early Nineties; Giles Fowler

Me 262 Project new build Me 262's; initial construction in Dallas, Texas, later in Everett, Washington - 16 color photos

Bf 109 replica; construction at Dakota Messerschmitt, Casselton, North Dakota - color photo

Regards,
Richard

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