NASM Paul E. Garber Facility Aircraft

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'clock High!:

miket
Do335
Fri Oct 6 07:32:28 2000


MTonelli
Do335
Tue Oct 3 07:04:54 2000


Help me please. I'm finding photos about the engine compartment of 'Pfeil' but it seem very difficoult. Anyone know where i can find it ? (If it is possible between web sites).

I'm sorry but in the last mail, my mail address to post was "broken-down".

Thank you very much. Mike.

[Richard T Eger]

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venancio lebre
Do335
Fri Oct 6 10:10:56 2000


Mike,

I didn´t has the chance to confirm if the following site has photos of engine compartment, but it´s as nice photos, as far as I remember. www.squadron13.com/do335 (http://www.squadron13.com/do335)

All the best
VL

Administrator's notes: Actually, the address of this page given by Venancio is incomplete. The full address is:


http://www.squadron13.com/do335/DO335.htm


Presented here is a color side view drawing, a brief history of the Do 335, and 21 detail color photos taken of Do 335A-02, Werk Nr. 240102, Reg VG+PH, taken at NASM Garber. Information on this specific Do 335 was found on Mikael Olrog's Preserved Axis Aircraft Throughout the World website.

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

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Mtonelli
do335 engine compartment
Tue Oct 10 12:02:12 2000


Venancio
Thank you very much for your interesting but i have just visiting the site in subject and no photo about engine or engine compartment were present.
If you have other....

Thnk you. Mike.

[Richard T Eger]

The complete name of the Garber facility is Paul E. Garber Restoration, Preservation & Storage Facility. It is a large repository of aircraft, among them quite a number of Luftwaffe aircraft.

Gary Heathcoat, with the assistance of Scott Willey, has created the Garber Facility Virtual Tour. Many of the Luftwaffe aircraft at Garber are shown on this site. The website address for this tour is:


http://www.aviation-history.com/garber/vgarb.html


The cover page gives a current status report about the facility and background information on Heathcoat and Willey. The aircraft index can be reached by clicking on The Tour Index or going directly to The Tour Alphabetically - Index at:


http://www.aviation-history.com/garber/vg-bldg/vindex.html


The site presents photos of the following Luftwaffe/German aircraft & missiles:

Ar 196A
Ar 234B
Ba 349 Natter
Bv 155V3 (or V2)
Bv 246 Hagelkorn missile
Bü 181 Bestmann
Bü 133 Jungmeister
Do 335A Pfeil
Fw 190F-8
Ta 152H-0
Grunau Baby IIb glider
He 162A
Hs 298 guided missile
Ho IX (229)V3
Me 163B
Me 410 Hornisse
Nakajima Kikka (Japanese plane with lines similar to the Me 262)

Also at Garber, but not pictured:

BMW 003 engine
DB610 engine
Hs 117 Schmetterling missile
Hs 293 missile
Ju 388L-1
Jumo 004 engine
Jumo 004 engine cutaway
Kugisho NE-20 engine for Kikka
Rheintochter R-1 missile
Walter RI 202b RATO for Ar 234
X-4 guided missile

Regards,
Richard

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[Richard T Eger]

The official website for the Garber facility is at:


http://www.nasm.edu/nasm/garber/Garber.html


The site presents a brief description of the facility, background on Paul E. Garber, tour information, and news about the NASM Dulles Center.

A list, by building, is provided of all the aircraft, missiles, and engines in the Garber facility. There are a few aircraft where history and photos can be accessed, but none of these are of Luftwaffe aircraft, missiles, or engines. The reader is referred to the prior entry above for a complete listing of what Luftwaffe and Luftwaffe related specimens are at Garber.

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

A nice selection of color photos of the Ho IX at the Garber facility can be found at:

http://www.hotel.wineasy.se/ipms/stuff_eng_detail_hoix.htm


These, along with a brief article, appear as part of IPMS Stockholm's online magazine issue for Feb. 1999. The article, written by Martin Waligorski, is entitled <U>Horten IX (Gotha Go 229) in Detail</U>. While photo credit is given to the The Virtual Hangar of Hethcoat and Willey (see 2 notes up), there are 10 photos here, but only 8 on the virtual tour, itself. Also, more information is given as to what is in the photos.

Regards,
Richard

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[Richard T Eger]

Huib Otten's Huib's Aviation Book and Flying Wing Page website presents 10 color photos of the Garber facility Ho IX V3, along with a short historical note.

The website address is:

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Cockpit/1369/


Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

Douglas Bullard's The Nurflügel Page website has pages with numerous color photos taken at the Garber facility or restoration of its aircraft. To reach these pages, log onto:


http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/nurflugel.html


Go to the menu at the top of the page and click on Top, which will bring you to the main page.

Scroll down the main page and click on Horten Nurflügels (alternatively accessible by clicking on Horten in the menu).

Scroll down the left side of the Horten page until you find the Ho IX. Click on the photo. Scroll down the page and you will find 10 color photos of the Ho IX V3 taken by Bullard at the Garber facility. The address for this page is:


http://www.nurflugel.com/Nurflugel/Horten_Nurflugels/ho_ix/ho_ix.html


Returning to the main page and scrolling down, we come to:

Pictures From the NASM

These color photos were taken at the Garber facility in July 1997 by Douglas Bullard and Geoff Steele. The following Luftwaffe aircraft, engines, and missiles are pictured, with DB denoting Bullard, GS - Steele, and (*) the number of photos:

Ba 349 - DB (1), GS (1)
He 162A - DB (1)
Walter RATO for Ar 234 & Jumo 004 - DB (1)
Walter RATO for Ar 234, Jumo 004, & Ar 234 - DB (1)
Do 335 - DB (1)
Bv 346 glide bomb - DB (1)
Ho 229 - DB (14), GS (6)
Nakajima Kikka (Japanese, but lines similar to Me 262) - DB (1)
Grunau Baby LZ-NC - GS (1)


Returning to the main page and poceeding to the bottom, click on the link New! Pictures of the NASM's Ho IV during restoration!. (This page could also be accessed by clicking on NASM Hortens in the menu.) The site seems to be a bit unclear as to whether this is serial number 34 or 26 (D-10-1452/LA-AD). This NASM aircraft was restored at the Deutches Museum Munchen und Flugwerft Oberschleissheim. The page presents 19 color photos taken during restoration.

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'clock High!:

Kjetil Aakra
Ta 152H-0/H-1 - difference?
Wed Oct 25 14:58:58 2000


Hi.

I was just looking at my Italeri Ta 152H kit and my references on the plane. There seems to be two different ventral wing paneling of the Ta 152H, with or without a large
rectangular plate. I know that the H-1 had additional fuel tankage in the wings, but which wing belong to the H-1???????

My references do not seem to agree, and the photos I have are not clear enough to resolve the problem. What is the old Trimaster kit, and H-0 or an H-1? I want to do one
fo the prototypes, but suspect that the wing panels are for a H-1. Any enlightment welcome!

Thanks,

Kjetil

[Richard T Eger]

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Charles Silverlight
Ta152H-1 and H-0 differences
Thu Oct 26 00:08:21 2000


The Italari kit I have is definitely a H-1. It has numerous circular access panels on the underside of each wing. 10 outer holes for servicing control linkages and 3 inner to
access the wing mounted fuel tanks.

Compared to the references I've seen to the H-1, the Italari kit seems very good. I've seen (and photographed) the underside of the NASM's Ta152H-0 which doesn't have
the circular holes but much larger rectangular ones.

An excellent reference, one that is very good on the Ta152 prototypes and H model developments is 'Focke-Wulf Ta 152' by Dietmar Harmann, published by Schiffer.

All the best

Charles

[Richard T Eger]

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Kjetil Aakra
Those circular holes
Thu Oct 26 11:56:00 2000


Thanks for your reply and help. I was afraid that the Italeri kit was an H-1.

"...NASM's Ta152H-0 which doesn't have the circular holes but much larger rectangular ones"

Do you mean that there are no circular holes at all!? If so, there is something wrong with all three-view drawings of the H-0 I have seen.

Unfortunately I don't have the book you mentioned, my primary reference is the Monogram close-up.

Thanks,

Kjetil

[Richard T Eger]

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Charles Silverlight
Those holes in the wings
Fri Oct 27 00:04:44 2000


Kjetil

Looking at my photos I was slightly wrong about the holes (or access panels) under the wings.

The H-0 did have the outer (control linkage) holes, 9 as far as I can see, but the inner ones are missing which is unsurprising as the H-0 had no wing fuel tanks. Instead it
has a larger rectangular panel/hole, similar to that of earlier Fw 190 aircraft. I will send you scans of a couple of photos I took (I would post them on this site, but I can't
figure out how to!)

regards

Charles

[Richard T Eger]

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Ronnie
NASM's = H-1 !
Thu Oct 26 23:33:42 2000


IIRC the NASM version is a H-1!! A H-1/R11. W.Nr. 150010, Green 4, CW+CJ as flown by Oberfeldwebel (or something like that http://www.lwag.org/ubb/smile.gif Walter Loos. Some say it's H-0 150003,
but that doesn't seem to be true... (so says Monogram German Aircraft Interiors - by Kenneth Merrick)

[Richard T Eger]

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Charles Silverlight
NASM's Ta 152
Thu Oct 26 23:52:44 2000


According to Harmann, NASM's Ta 152 is 150010, a H-0, possibly coded 'green 4' of the stabsschwarm of JG 301. That it is a H-0 is consistent with its wings which I saw
and photographed at Silver Hill a couple of years ago. There is no evidence that it might have been 150003 and, studying the available photos this seems unlikely.
According to Harmann 'the code green 4 was applied in America...it also may have worn a "2" at some point as well as a black "6" or "8" '.

It will be interesting to see what it looks like when NASM finish restoring it and display it at the new Dulles facility!

Charles

[Richard T Eger]

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Ronnie
Re: NASM's Ta 152
Fri Oct 27 21:31:42 2000


Thanks for the info. H-0, H-1, Green 4, Black 8... will we ever know??
Weird, isn't it, that so little is know about this particular machine?

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'clock High!:

Ronnie
three prototypes of 155......
Wed Nov 1 20:36:32 2000


as a further addition, three prototypes were built of the Blohm & Voss Bv 155. V1 and V2 have flown, while the third incomplete model, V3, now resides at the Garber
Facility, NASM.

I agree that a little more info on the Bf 109H versions would be very welcome. There are a lot of contradictory stories here. Some sources claim that the H-0s and H-1s were
modified Bf 109F-4s and G-5s, and that some even saw limited operation in France, early 1944. Others claim the "H" version was just a designation given by pilots to their
high-altitude G versions (backed-up by pilot's reports).
What really happened??? Will we ever know??

[Richard T Eger]

Charles Silverlight has constructed the following Ta 152 H-0 website highlighting the Ta 152 at the Garber facility:

http://www.geocities.com/ta152uk/index.html

Charles provides numerous detailed photos of the aircraft both in deep storage and during restoration, with good text to go along with them. He also includes further text and photos of a Jumo 213 E-1 engine on display at the Champlin Fighter Museum at Phoenix,
Arizona, USA, which was the engine type that powered the Ta 152.

This is an excellent website for those interested in details of this interesting aircraft.

Regards,
Richard

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[Richard T Eger]

Christoph Vernaleken, in his Ju 388 website, has done a fine job covering this aircraft, with special emphasis being placed on the Ju 388 L-1, Werknummer 560 049, currently at the NASM Garber facility. The English language website address is:

http://cip.physik.uni-wuerzburg.de/~vernalek/Ju388US.html

The German language website address is:

http://Ju388.de/

or

http://www.ju388.de

The sections of the website are:

Main Page

Background, 2 color photos of NASM plane, technical data, b&w historic photo, screensaver, and downloadable true type font codes as used on German aircraft.

A Tour of the Cockpit

A tour of the cockpit of the NASM plane with descriptions of the individual instruments. A single cockpit color photo is provided, which contains links to closer in detail shots. Fantastic!

Outside Views

Six color photos of the disassembled NASM plane.

The History of the Ju 388 at Silver Hill

History of the NASM plane with 10 b&w photos. Unfortunately, the author has apparently been forced to cover over the swastikas in the photos due to censorship in Germany.

A Look Inside the Ju 388 Fuselage

Looking backward toward the tail, a single color photo contains links to more detailed color photos of the various pieces of equipment. The description for the general photo is in English, the detailed photos in German.

Plans and Drawings

Side and plan views, 2 landing gear drawings, and side view of forward fuselage with dimensions.

Version Overview: Ju 388

Details on Ju 388 J destroyer/nightfighter, Ju 388 K bomber, Ju 388 L reconnaissance, Ju 388 with Jumo 213, Ju 388 with Jumo 222,and Ju 388 with DB 603.

Historic Images

Eleven B&W photos of various Ju 388 with descriptions. Four of these are of the NASM aircraft. Again, due to censorship in Germany, the swastikas on these historic pictures have been removed.

T2 TECHNICAL REPORT ON JU-388 L-I AIRCRAFT

This is a transcription of T2 TECHNICAL REPORT Report No. F-TR-1138-ND giving technical information and flight test assessment of the Ju 388 at Wright Field. There are no photos or drawings presented here on-line.

A Map on the Ju 388 Production

A map showing the locations of the 5 known production centers for the Ju 388, along with a brief explanation.

BMW 801 Fuel Injection Pump

Detailed article with 5 color photos, followed by additional 14 photos with notations on restoration of pump.

Sources

Best described in the author's own words:

"This page features a short overview of the material Martin Handig and I collected on the Ju 388, sorted by date. All the information contained in http://Ju388.de/ originates from these sources, but the site does not yet contain all of the information in these documents. If you are interested in exchanging material with us, please contact webmaster@Ju388.de !"


Regards,
Richard

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[Richard T Eger]

Rod Larson has created the WarBirds Photo website with some excellent coverage of Japanese aircraft from WW II, as well as specialized coverage of 5 Luftwaffe aircraft. His website address is:

http://www.warbirdpix.com/index.html

My interest in Japanese WW II aircraft centers on the advanced jet and rocket types, in part because at least 2 of these can trace their ancestry to German designs.

The sections of the site are:

1,249 WWII Japanese Aircraft Photos

Aircraft of specific interest re. the above:

J8M1 Shusui Sword Stroke (Komet) - 17 B&W photos, 3 of which show the aircraft in flight
Kikka Orange Blossom - 16 B&W photos, 1 showing the aircraft at take-off or landing.
MXY7 Ohka Cherry Blossom (Baka) - 15 B&W photos, 1 of a possible 2-man version

Selected WWII German Aircraft Photos: DO-335, FW-190, FW-200, Me-262,& Me-323

Do 335 - 65 B&W photos, 4 in flight; 6 color photos of the NASM Garber facility aircraft VG+PH (102), 1 WW II era color photo
Fw 190 - 18 B&W photos
Fw 200 - 5 B&W photos
Me 262 - 5 B&W photos
Me 323 - 3 B&W, 1 color photo

San Diego AeroSpace Museum

Me 109 - 2 color photos
Fi 156 - 2 color photos

Planes of Fame Museum, Chino, CA

Buchon Me 109 - 2 color photos
He 162 - 2 color photos
Me 163 - 3 color photos
Me 262 - 2 color photos
Natter - 1 color photo
V-1 - 2 color photos
Japanese J8M1 Shusui - 1 color photo

Museum of Flying, Santa Monica, CA

Me 109 - 8 color photos
Me 163 rocket motor - 1 color photo

Auckland Domain Museum & Museum of Transportation, Auckland, New Zealand

V-1 - 1 color photo

Yasakuni Shrine in Ichigaya, a suburb of Tokyo

MXY7 Ohka Cherry Blossom Bomb - 17 color photos

Fleming Fly2K Air Show, St. Paul, MN

Ju 52 of Confederate Air force - 22 color photos

Amsterdam Schipol Airport Museum - Aviadome, Amsterdam, Netherlands or, alternatively, Luchtvaartmuseum Aviadome - Schipol, Netherlands

V-1 - 10 color photos

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

The Garber Facility Photographs website by Brian M. Fowler Jr. can be accessed at:

http://garberphotos.homestead.com

Brian has provided large color photos, some of which are really beautiful close-ups, of the following aircraft. The numbers in ( ) are the number of photos:

Bv 155 (1)
Ju 388 (3)
Me 410 (2)
Ta 152 (6)

In addition, it looks like the Japanese Kikka will be the subject of future coverage.

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

The Pedro Freitas Luftwaffe Internet Museum and Information Resource website has a photo collection containing a number of photos of museum aircraft. The website address is:

http://www.geocities.com/rdd02754/

Ba 349, 2 color photos NASM Paul E. Garber facility, 1 B&W wartime photo

Fw 190D-13, 2 color photos Champlain Fighter Museum
Ta 152, 5 color photos NASM Paul E. Garber facility

He 162, 2 color photos NASM Paul E. Garber facility, 1 B&W flight photo, 1 B&W Russian markings photo
He 219, 2 color photos NASM Paul E. Garber facility

Bf 109E-4, WNr. 1190, 5 color photos Duxford, 1 B&W photo
Bf 109G-10, "Black 2", 9 color photos Planes of Fame
Bf 109's, 6 color photos aircraft found in Russia
Me 410, 2 color photos NASM Paul E. Garber facility, 1 B&W wartime photo

Junkers Jumo 213 engine, 5 color photos, 1 B&W photo

Regards,
Richard