NASM Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center (Dulles International Airport) Aircraft

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'clock High!:

Dick Powers
NASM Facility
Tue Jan 23 19:58:20 2001

The National Air and Space Museum has a web site describing their new restoration facility presently under construction. the URL is:

http://www.nasm.edu/NASMhome.html

From the home page, select "Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center".

To browse the list of anticipated artifacts planned for display, select "Artifacts" and either "Aircraft" or "Spacecraft" (some LW rockets).

Sounds like this wil be Luftwaffe heaven, with aircraft on display that haven't seen the light of day for ages. Display artifacts may be either fully restored, like the Ar 234, or
"as-is" like the Me 410.

But either way, it will be a great place to visit.

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Paulo Dario
Paul Garber Facility
Tue Jan 23 21:57:46 2001


Looks like the same place, nearby Andrews AFB.
Oh boy, they've got half a dozen hangar full of rarities that make the exibition at the Museum itself look almost nothing.
For us LW fans I remember seeing the Ar234, 196 !!, Me163, 262, 410, Ju388,Do335, Fw190, He162 and lot of other stuff, like the Fritz if I'm not mistaken.
That not to mention the Jap. Sieran being restored and the Baka(kinda 262) forgotten suspended in a corner http://www.lwag.org/ubb/frown.gif(
That was 02 years ago and worth every effort to go there !!

All the best
Paulo Dario

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Dick Powers
Re: Paul Garber Facility
Tue Jan 23 22:05:21 2001


If you navigate to the list of aircraft to be displayed, you'll see all those listed. It will be nice to see an FW 190 F and Il-2 in the same building, nearly side by side..

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Dave Pawlikowski
He-219 in the USA?
Tue Jul 24 18:19:25 2001


I'm in the middle of planning a fall getaway and would like to see some Luftwaffe planes.

The Air and Space museum in DC has a AR-234B. Nice display?

Is there a He-219 in the states?

Many thanks...

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Dick Powers
Re: He-219 in the USA?
Tue Jul 24 18:48:19 2001


Dave,
Presently the Ar 234 is in storage at Silver Hill and is in a building that is not on the tour.

The He 219 is also in storage and not visible.

Also the FW 190F is in a building not currently on the tour.

The NASM Silver Hill tour does get you ap close and personal to the Go 229, the Bachem Natter, the Ar 196.

All the planes you mentioned and many more will eventually be displayed in the new Steven F. Udvar-Hazy enter under construction.

If you're interested, here is the web site.

http://www.nasm.edu/nasm/ext/

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Dick Powers
dick.powers@hok.com
German Aircraft at NASM Dulles
Thu Jan 30 19:03:05 2003
63.150.97.2

When the Udvar-Hazy center at Dulles Airport opens in December 2003, the following German artifacts will be on Display:
Bu 133C
Ju 52 (actually CASA-built)
Focke-Achgelis Fa 330A-1
DFS 108-49 Grunau Baby
FW 190F-8/R1
Arado 234B-2
Missles:
Hs 298
X4
Hs 293A-1
Rheintochter
Hs 117
Fritz X

Also several examples of engines.

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Dave
219 ?
Fri Jan 31 02:24:38 2003
203.96.111.237

Hi Dick ... Any word when the Heinkel will be there ?

regards
Dave

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Dick Powers
219
Fri Jan 31 15:34:11 2003
63.150.97.2

I haven't seen a date for the 219. But I'll sure be interested when it does appear.

[Richard T Eger]

Descriptions, histories, technical information, and photos of the NASM's WW II German aircraft at the mall building, the Paul E. Garber Restoration Facility, and eventually also at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center at Dulles, can be found at:

http://www.nasm.si.edu/nasm/aero/aircraft/aero.htm

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Rob
NASM FW
Sun Nov 23 01:45:31 2003
65.34.98.241

This month's Smithsonian magazine has an article and pictures about the new airplane facility. One photo shows the "Fw-190F, the only one with electric gear and flaps ...which served on both the East and West fronts" being loaded onto a flatbed. Accurate or no? Also noted the difficulty of moving a wingspan of 34 feet down a 30 foot wide road - they had to stop and pull up a roadsign.

[Richard T Eger]

The following German WW II era aircraft are currently on display at the National Air and Space Museum Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center:

Arado Ar 234 B Blitz
Bücker Bü 133 C Jungmeister
Focke-Achgelis Fa 330A
Focke-Wulf Fw 190 F
Grunau Baby II B-2
Junkers Ju 52/3m
Kugisho MXY7 Ohka Model 22 (okay, it's Japanese)
Nagler-Rolz NR 54 V2

The following missiles are on display:

Fritz X Guided Bomb
Hs 117 Schmetterling Missile
Hs 293 A-1 Missile
Hs 298 V2 Missile
Rheintochter R I Missile
Ruhrstahl X-4 Missile

The following aircraft engines are on display:

Junkers Jumo 004 B4
Nakajima Ne-20 (again, Japanese)

Regards,
Richard

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Dave
Fw190A-7 wk.nr.640 069
Mon Feb 9 00:10:37 2004
210.55.86.161

Anyone have information on the history of this bird ? Later rebuilt as an F-8. This is the NASM 190F-8 , looking for earlier history details when it was an A-7


TIA

regards
Dave

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Charles Bavaroise
640.049 - Fw 190 A-7?
Thu Feb 12 11:04:34 2004
62.134.61.24

Dave,

sorry, but your information on NASMs Fw 190 F-8 is based on older publications and unfortunately not up to date. This bird never was a recycled A-7 and 640.049 is not a valid Werknummer for a Fw 190 airframe anyway. There is no evidence, that it was anything else but a regular F-8/R1.
HTH

Carl

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

misko
exactly
Mon Feb 16 08:12:04 2004
194.154.129.7

same mistake was made with YuAF museum's example of F-8/R1

[Richard T Eger]

The Aviation Enthusist Corner website covers aircraft in museums in the U.S. and Canada. The website address is:

http://www.aero-web.org/air.htm

Technical information, occassional photos, and discussion are presented for the aircraft, which include the following Luftwaffe aircraft:

Ar 234 - NASM Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center
Do 335 - NASM Paul E. Garber Facility
Fi 156 - U.S.A.
Fw 44 - U.S.A.
Fw 190 - U.S.A.
He 162 - U.S.A.
Ju 52 - U.S.A.
Ju 88 - U.S.A.
Junkers W.34 - Canada
Bf 108 - U.S.A.
Bf 109 - U.S.A.
Me 163 - Canada
Me 208 - U.S.A.
Me 262 - U.S.A.

Regards,
Richard