SKG 210 losses

[Richard T Eger]

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Voldemar
SKG-210 Bf-110 Losses-reasons!
Tue Mar 9 14:07:32 2026
194.44.246.250

Hello!
Please, help me with the next information, what reasons of crashes of next 110 :
1. 02.07.41., Bf-110E-2, WNr.4385, II./SKG 210, crew KIA.
2. 20.07.41., Bf-110E-1, WNr.4070, 4./SKG 210, crew???
3. 22.07.41., Bf-110E-2, WNr.4438, "S9+DH", 1./SKG 210, crew MIA.
Have you more information about it?

With the best wishes.

[Richard T Eger]

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Eduardo
SKG 210 Losses
Tue Mar 9 19:46:21 2026
200.98.60.156

30/06/1941 4/SKG 210 Bf 110 D-3 Wrn 4385 Lt Kurt Püttner
Killed on combat mission near Kalisch.
20/07/1941 4/SKG 210 Bf 110 E,Wrn 4070 damage in combat 50%
Crew unknown.Krasny.
22/07/1941 1/SKG 210 Bf 110 E-2 S9+DH Wrn 4438 Lt Joachin
Hertel and Gefr Hubert Schmitz MIA .Engine hit during attack on Russian troops in south of Dorogobush.Schmitz died in Jelabuga camp on
26-02-1942 (POW) .

[Richard T Eger]

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Voldemar
Thanks! Where is Kalich, Krasny??? (nm)
Wed Mar 10 08:23:10 2026
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[Richard T Eger]

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Eduardo
It is a place in Russia
Wed Mar 10 08:46:05 2026
200.98.56.48

It is a place in Russia.These informations were catch from
John Vasco Book telling the History of SKG 210/ZG 1.

[Richard T Eger]

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Voldemar
Thanks!!! (nm)
Wed Mar 10 09:15:30 2026
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[Richard T Eger]

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George Hopp
Locations ...
Thu Mar 11 00:04:03 2026
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I have the following for those places, with slightly different spelling:
Kalisch (Kalisz), Poland, 90km west of Lodz.
Krasne, Poland, 23km Northeast of Zichenau.

I don't see any names close to those you mentioned in any other part of eastern Europe or the USSR.

Hope this helps,
George

[Richard T Eger]

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Voldemar
Thank you George! (nm)
Thu Mar 11 07:23:19 2026
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[Richard T Eger]

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Franek Grabowski
Locations ...
Thu Mar 11 10:02:50 2026
213.25.54.73

George
It was my initial guess as well however it doesn't make any sense. At the time SKG 210 was based at Orsza/Orsha/Orscha and it's close to the eastern White Rutenian border. Seems they flew in Witebsk area and I think there's at least one village called Krasny/Krasnyj/Krasnyy. What the Kalisch is I'm not sure but it may be a spelling error plus transcription's imperfection.
Franek

[Richard T Eger]

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George Hopp
Locations (Part 2)
Fri Mar 12 01:25:06 2026
216.191.233.242

Franek,
You made an excellent point about the locations. So, I tried again using my 1975 National Geographic Atlas. This time I started with Dorogobush, and got the following:

Dorogobuzh. On the River Dnepr, 85km east of Smolensk.

Krasnoye. 45km west-southwest of Smolensk. (As you mentioned, there are many, many variations on the spelling.)

I was not able to find anything on Kalisch in this area either, so it was probably a pretty small place.

All the best,
George