Books on uniforms, decorations, awards, & award recipients

[Richard T Eger]

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gene cloud
Ryton Publications Luftwaffe Diaries?
Thu Jan 10 17:02:11 2002

Anyone have any information on these books? I believe there are two volumes. Content, quality, etc? Thanks for any insight.

[Richard T Eger]

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Ruy Horta
Re: Ryton Publications Luftwaffe Diaries?
Thu Jan 10 19:23:40 2002


Interesting but different books.

Part one is more or less a pictorial on Experten, with attention to a/c, uniforms and equipment (the latter two in color).

Part two concentrates on uniforms, decorations and equipment.

Not the books to begin a collection, but certainly a nice addition to a growing one.

Ruy

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Thomas
German Cross in Gold
Sat Feb 23 15:00:07 2002
216.177.164.119

What was the German Cross in Gold awarded for and is their a list of pilots who were given this award. Thanks

[Richard T Eger]

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Brian Sadler
German Cross
Sat Feb 23 20:05:25 2002
213.122.250.101

Thomas,
This was Awarded to recognise a degree of Bravery or Service
above that of the Iron Cross 1st Class but not sufficient to
Warrant the Knights Cross. Aircrew could be awarded this for
achieving 140 War flights(K.G.51). There is a Book called
Die Traeger Des Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold der Luftwaffe 1941 - 1945 by Veit Scherzer(ISBN3 - 925480)
Hope that this is of some interest.
Brian

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Rick W
Wanted: Copy of book listing the Ehrenpokal Recipients
Wed Mar 19 20:22:04 2003
207.69.61.237

Hi,

I am looking for a copy of the out of print book (sorry, cannot remember the author's name) which lists "all" the recipients of the Ehrenpokal (Honor Goblet). If someone has one for sale or know someone who does, please contact me.

Kind regards,

Rick

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LwFlieger@aol.com
Ehren Pokal
Sat Mar 22 07:05:42 2003
152.163.189.235

The book you are looking for is:
Scheibert, Horst, "Die Träger der Ehrenblatt-Spange des Heeres und der Waffen-SS, Die Träger der Ehrentafel-Spange der Kriegsmarine, Die Inhaber des Ehrenpokals für besondere Leistung im Luftkrieg" by Horst Schiebert; Friedberg, 1986).

I think I obtained my copy through Christian Schmidt but could also search the internet.

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John Williams
German cross in Gold.
Tue Jun 3 22:38:19 2003
203.194.4.11

Hi All ,

Can anyone tell me or give me a web site that has a list of when the German cross in Gold was presented to Luftwaffe pilots.

Thanks,

John.

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Marcel Hogenhuis
DK Gold winners Luftwaffe
Thu Jun 5 12:43:08 2003
217.122.92.115

Hello John,

If you have a name or some names, I will look into a book that I have about LUFTWAFFE personell who gained this medal.

Best wishes, Marcel Hogenhuis
Study Group Venlo Airfield in WW-2

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John Williams
DK winners
Fri Jun 6 01:03:35 2003
203.194.8.18

Dear Marcel,

Many thanks for your offer, I only have one Hptm Rudolf Altendorf who was with NJG 3,4 & 5 and would have received it about August/September 1944 I think.

Thanks,

John.

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Leon Venter
Apparently not
Fri Jun 6 09:09:43 2003
68.120.152.1

It appears that Rudolf Altendorf wasn't awarded the DK in Gold, since his name does not appear in "Die Träger des Deutschen Kreuzes in Gold der Luftwaffe 1941-1945" by Veit Scherzer. (FYI, there were 32 members of NJG 3, 4 & 5 who did receive the award.)

Leon Venter.

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John Williams
DK
Sat Jun 7 01:28:38 2003
203.194.14.68

Hello Leon,

According to Gebhard Aders book, "The history of the German Night Fighter Force 1917-1945" he is listed down as having received one, I understand that the rough rule was 20 kills for a DK, Altendorf would have had a score of 20 at about August September 1944. I wounder which book is correct?

John.

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John Manrho
Veit Scherzer
Sat Jun 7 08:50:49 2003
195.121.71.97

Leon, please note that the list in Veit Scherzer is not complete. There were more DKiG recipients.

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Russ
JG27 Honor Goblet
Wed Jun 18 00:29:43 2003
64.180.150.67

Hello;

I have recently acquired either an original or very good quality copy of a Luftwaffe Honor Goblet Award Document present to Oberleutnant der Flieger 4./ Jagdgeschwader 27 Georg Hausleitner. Dated 30.01.1944.

Does anyone know anything about Herr Hausleitner? Does a photo of him exist? His aircraft type?

The Göring signature is of course a facsimile.

But the signature for the General Der Flieger is in pencil and it appears to be 4 letters, the second letter is "ö", but it might be something like Görn or Sörn. Hard to tell.

Can anyone tell me who the General Der Flieger might have been who would have signed this document? If we can I.D. him any photos or other info on him is appreciated.

Thanks to anyone who can help me.

Cheers;
Russ

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Andreas Brekken
Löhr?
Wed Jun 18 07:57:29 2003
80.213.10.124

Hi,

my first thought was that it could be Löhr who signed the document, but I am not sure, due to the date.

Löhr commanded Luftflotte 4 for a period of time, but I do not have dates etc, and I do not have the time to look it up for You.

Try browsing through the pages at: www.ww2.dk

and/or a general search on the net.

Regards,
Andreas

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LwFlieger
Hausleitner
Mon Jun 23 04:07:47 2003
152.163.253.101

According to: "Die Inhaber des Ehrenpohkals für Besondere Leistung im Luftkrieg" by Horst Schiebert (ISBN 307909-0283-7) there is no mention of such a person! It could be that the book is wrong. It is probably compiled from secondary sources. Beyond that I can't help you. Sorry!

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KG 76 Florian Geyer
oak leaves with swords and diamonds
Tue Sep 9 08:17:01 2003
217.1.213.236

Hi, can you inform me about the exact measures (in cms) of the oak leaves with swords and diamonds - and how many pieces of diamonds were worked in there? Would be great, if someone also would know the size/s(in mm) of the diamonds. Thanks a lot in advance for your reply, Horst

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Douglas Jr.
Diamonds cluster size
Wed Sep 10 05:37:23 2003
200.98.159.252

Hi,

According the book "A COLLECTOR´S GUIDE TO THIRD REICH MILITARIA" (Hippocrene Books, New York, USA, 4th print, 1994) by Robin LUMSDEN, the measure of a Diamonds cluster is the following:

The Knight´s Cross size: 48mmX 48mm
Oakleaves diameter: 20mm
Swords lenght: 24mm the right sword is over the left in an angle of 40º.
Diamonds: each cluster was handmade (there aren´t two identical clusters) but each one carried something between 45-50 diamonds.

Hope it helps you. You can fins more info at
www.wehrmacht-awards.com

Regards,

Douglas.

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Florian Geyer
oak leaves with swords and diamonds
Wed Sep 10 06:37:17 2003
217.1.233.227

Hi Douglas, thank you so much for your precise infos. They help a lot!!!
Regards, Horst