Books relating to the air war over North-eastern England, 1939 - 1945

[Richard T Eger]

Bill Norman
Member
posted 24 November 2001 06:40
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Readers seeking info about losses over Yorkshire and its coastline(at least 72 aircraft and 282 crew)might find www.billnorman.co.uk (http://www.billnorman.co.uk) of interest. I can supply.


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[Richard T Eger]

Bill Norman
Member
posted 19 January 2002 15:31
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My latest book, Broken Eagles (Luftwaffe losses over Yorkshire, 1939-1945) now available. Records all known losses (72 aircraft; 282 crew), together with causes, in narrative format. Contributors include civilian eye-witnesses, ex-RAF aircrews,and ex-Luftwaffe personnel. Full crew details in the text and and in 14 pages of appendices. 224 pages, 90+ photos. Further details on www.billnorman.co.uk (http://www.billnorman.co.uk)

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

Dave Pawlikowski
Luftwaffe grave site in England - Sunderland
Mon Jun 24 22:47:22 2002
24.60.71.18

I was very recently sent some information regarding a Luftwaffe gravesite that was located near this person. He was wondering if the German authorities and the airmen's families were ever notified of the location of said graves.

I had replied that after sixty years, the surviving family members and the German government would very likely be aware of their location, as the Allies were kept abreast of their airmen buried in France and such. I could see no reason why the English wouldn't tell the Germans where these men were buried.

I was, however, very curious to see the gravesite and he was kind enough to send me some photo's. I made a small webpage and is is located here -

http://www.luftwaffe-experten.com/graves/index.html

I would like to complete this story. Can anyone provide details about the pilots? Units, aircraft, details of loss?

Any help appreciated. Thank you.

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Melvin Brown
Graves
Tue Jun 25 22:46:56 2002
195.92.168.170

Hi Dave,

The other details you require is as follows;

16.02.41. He 111 Wnr.3085 5J + GP of KG4 "General Wever"

Hptm. H. Styra
Obfw. Wilhelm Beetz
Gefr. Franz Janeschitz
Uffz. Helmut Jeckstadt
Uffz. Karl Brutzen

Hit by AA fire then struck balloon cable. Crashed at Bent's Park, South Shields. Obfw. Beetz baled out but was killed when he landed on trolley-bus wires.

15.01.42. Ju 88 Wnr.1612 S4 + EH of Ku.Fl.Gr.1/506

Lt. Dieter Andresen.

Shot down by AA fire and crashed in the sea off the Tyne.
Andresen's body was washed ashore on the 27th Jan.
Other crew members were Fw. F. Gruschka, Uffz. J. Scholze, Uffz. F. Pett. All missing, presumed killed. Possible that one is interred in the grave marked simply "Ein Deutsche Soldat".

This information was extracted from Bill Norman's excellent work "Luftwaffe over the North" a very well researched book!!

Regards,

Melvin.

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Bill Norman
Melvin - thanks.
Wed Jun 26 09:04:48 2002
195.93.34.168

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Dave Pawlikowski
Melvin, thanks!
Tue Jun 25 22:58:24 2002
24.60.71.18

Thanks for the timely info on Herr Andresen. When your note arrived, I had a fifteen books on the living room floor looking for anything on him!

You saved me a bit of trouble, and it is greatly appreciated!

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From TOCH!:

Melvin Brown
Your welcome!
Tue Jun 25 23:22:37 2002
195.92.168.170

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Bill Norman
Andresen
Wed Jun 26 09:14:03 2002
195.93.34.168

Dave,
You might like to know that my book BROKEN EAGLES 2(Luftwaffe losses over Northumberland and Durham, 1939-1945) gives full details of 64 German aircraft (inluding those of Beetz and Andresen) lost over these two counties. It is due to be published c. September of this year. It is the companion volume to BROKEN EAGLES (Luftwaffe losses over Yorkshire, 1939-1945)which was published in October 2001. The 'Yorkshire' volume records the loss of 72 German aircraft and their crews. Both volumes contain full appendices of crew and aircraft details. A visit to www.billnorman.co.uk (http://www.billnorman.co.uk) might be of interest to you.

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High:

John A. Kington
Westa
Fri Jul 5 12:09:29 2002
64.12.103.183

In view of the Regierungsrat article, 26 June, it may be of interest that Franz Selinger and I are writing a book, 'Wekusta: Luftwaffe Meteorological Reconnaissance Units & Operations 1938-1945', to be published by Hikoki.
This will include coverage of the items referred to by Bill Norman, Claus Nattermann, et al.
If possible, Franz and I would be pleased, Claus, to receive the details you have about Westa 5 and 6. Any information published would, of course, be duly acknowledged by us.
Best wishes,
John A. Kington
e-mail: JohnAKington@aol.com

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Bill Norman
Normawlnj@aol.com
Wekusta
Fri Jul 5 22:05:58 2002
195.93.49.157

Then you might be interested in a full account of the shooting down of the Ju88 D7+FH on 23 August 1943 in my BROKEN EAGLES 2 (Luftwaffe losses over Northumberland & Durham, which is due out c. Sept. this year. Some details on www.billnorman.co.uk (http://www.billnorman.co.uk)

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John A. Kington
Wekusta
Sat Jul 6 20:07:06 2002
152.163.201.52

Dear Bill,

Yes indeed - will reply in more detail by e-mail.

Best wishes,

John

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Del Davis
Great News- Publication Date??nt
Sun Jul 7 18:56:27 2002
152.163.204.74

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John A. Kington
Wekusta
Mon Jul 8 00:29:16 2002
64.12.103.159

Dear Del,

Thank you for your interest. Publication date not yet known - we are still writing!

Best wishes,

John

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Edmund
RAF Driffield
Fri Dec 27 01:51:24 2002
212.104.153.240

Hello,
Anyone please know which squadron/gruppe was responsible for the attack on RAF Driffield on 15th August 1940? It involved JU88's.

Cheers.

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Junker
I+III/KG 30 from Denmark N/T
Fri Dec 27 08:53:11 2002
131.164.185.131

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Edmund
Thanks
Fri Dec 27 23:49:38 2002
212.104.142.157

Thanks very much.

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BN
Driffield
Fri Dec 27 09:55:36 2002
195.93.33.12

I,II and III./KG30. For a brief resumé see my BROKEN EAGLES (Luftwaffe Losses over Yorkshire,1939-1945) pp56-61. Details of the book on www.billnorman.co.uk

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

David Pausey
Wekuska 1 loss
Thu Oct 23 14:24:50 2003
195.92.67.75

hello

on the 22-8-43 Wekuska 1 lost a Ju 88 can someone supply any info on crew name's, codes & where it was lost?

cheers

david

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Jim P.
Sure its not this one?
Thu Oct 23 17:57:59 2003
64.223.199.2

Ju 88D-1 430804 Rapp, Oblt. Karl Wekusta 1 D7+FH 23-Aug-43 MIA with crew, probably due to enemy fire. North Sea Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.20 Über der Nordsee 100% F

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David Pausey
will check this when I get back,cheers Jim (nm)
Thu Oct 23 18:50:27 2003
195.92.67.70

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Bill Norman
Wekusta 1
Sat Oct 25 16:16:25 2003
195.93.33.9

If the date was 23 August 1943 this could be the one. Ju88D-1 D7+FH wnr 430804. Oblt Karl Rapp(pilot), Reg.Rat. Otto Krug(meteorologist),Uffz. Alfred Schulz (W/op), Fw.Otto Kühle(mechanic). Probably the one claimed by two Beaufighters [W/Cdr Michael Constable-Maxwell and F/Lt John Surman] of 604 Sqdn, Scorton, North Yorks. Location stated to be in North Sea, "130 miles NE of river Tees". On his return to base, Constable-Maxwell, a staunch Roman Catholic, immediately went to the nearby monastery and asked a priest to say Mass for the German crew. Full details in my book: LUFTWAFFE LOSSES OVER NORTHUMBERLAND AND DURHAM. See www.billnorman.co.uk

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

colly.2
ju 88 insignia
Sun Dec 28 19:55:47 2003
81.103.145.58

Am trying to find the origin of noseart on a JU-88 A-5 s/n 5J+ER w/n 6129-It shows a silver Bat flying across a yellow crescent Moon.
Any info would be most appreciated.
Happy New Year to All.
Colly

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CG
Re: ju 88 insignia
Sun Dec 28 21:16:21 2003
80.40.93.174

This was the Staffelabzeichen of 7/KG 4 which then became 7/KG 30. This ac crash-landed at Duggleby, Yorkshire in October 40 by which time 7/KG 4 (and the rest of III/KG 4) had been transferred to be III/KG 30

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Jim P.
FYI - that was Hajo Hermann Staffel during BoB. (nm)
Tue Dec 30 21:44:07 2003
67.242.219.212

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colly.2
JU 88 7/KG4
Mon Dec 29 22:43:13 2003
81.103.145.94

Many thanks CG-My Brother and I sat in this JU 88 in Filey-the wreckage was being displayed in aid of the local Spitfire Fund.
Could you please tell me where I may find a colour reproduction of the Bat/Moon insignia.
Again many thanks
Colin Sedgwick
Inverness-Scotland

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CG
Re: JU 88 7/KG4
Mon Dec 29 23:08:54 2003
80.40.88.83

Thetre are a number of books you can buy showing German insignia; photos of the crashed aircraft itself are in the book 'The Luftwaffe's Battle of Britain: The Bombers' Battle'

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colly.2
JU 88
Tue Dec 30 13:43:16 2003
81.101.71.6

Thanks CG-your'tome' was ordered to-day.
Unfortunately the 21st Century hasn't arrived up here yet so I am having to rely on the rest of the British Empire for my research.

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Bill Norman
7/KG4 Ju88
Thu Jan 1 10:07:31 2004
195.93.33.7

You will find a couple of very nice pictures - and the full story of the loss of this aircraft - in my book Luftwaffe over the North. There are also others in my book Broken Eagles (Luftwaffe Losses over Yorkshire. Full details on www.billnorman.co.uk. I can supply.