Books by Dr. Jochen Prien - 3

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Marlon Schultz
Osterkamp's Bf109
Mon Apr 8 07:28:48 2002
142.165.70.19

Hello all,

I am new to this site . I am a modeler and I wish to build Theo Osterkamp's Bf109E. Does anyone know his markings? I think it would good very nice beside his Albatros.

Very best regards,

Marlon Schultz

Canada

[Richard T Eger]

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Jan Bobek
bad news
Mon Apr 8 16:55:54 2002
213.246.78.70

Hi,

I am looking for same. Osterkamp as Kommodore as popular "Old Eagle" was logically good subject for wartime photographers but I am afraid that no photos of his plane ever appeared. Moreover in recent Jagdwaffe volume written by German team Prien, Bock, Stemmer and Rodeike, there is just 1 confirmed victory achieved by Osterkamp during WW II. All others are unconfirmed.

Could you share with me more details about Theo´s Albatros? I know just lozenge covered Fokker D.VIII. If somebody would have lead to photos of Theo´s black/yellow stripped Fokkers, I would be most grateful.

Regards

Jan

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Jim P.
Anyone want to take a whack at translating this...
Mon Jun 3 13:33:16 2002
64.223.199.2


ca.Ende Juni 2002 erscheint

Die Jagdfliegerverbände der Deutschen Luftwaffe Teil 4/I
Der Einsatz am Kanal und über England
26.06.1940 bis 21.06.1941
von Prien - Stemmer - Rodeike - Bock
430 Seiten,ca.850 Fotos,sowie Karten und Rißzeichnungen 52,- Euro

Teil4/II erscheint vorraussichtlich Ende September

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Richard Byrd
Translation
Mon Jun 3 14:12:50 2002
208.62.52.228

Appearing about June 2002

The Fighter Units of the German Air Force, Part 4, vol. I
Operation over the Channel and England
26.06.1940 to 21.06.1941
authors Prien - Stemmer - Rodeike - Bock
430 pp, about 850 photos, as well as maps and drawings
52,- Euro

Part 4/ volume II is expected at the end of September

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Jim P.
Thanks. That's kinda what I thought it said. Now..
Mon Jun 3 14:24:18 2002
64.223.199.2

if true, start saving your pennies guys. Can anyone else verify these dates, yea or nah?

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Jim P.
Prien 'Jagdverbande' Volume 4 again.
Wed Jun 5 22:28:52 2002
209.237.196.228

Mr. Penker was right -- I just today received notification from Prien's publisher, Struwe Druck, that Part 1 of Volume 4 of the 'Jagdverbande' series should be available this month, with part 2 being scheduled for September. BTW part 1 will cover JGs 2, 3, 26 & 27, while part 2 will cover the JGs 51 thru 77, I(J)./LG 1 and 3./Erprob. 210. These will be 'must have' volumes. Is Volume 5 gonna be on Barbarosa?

[Richard T Eger]

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Dean Wick
Prien, Vol.4
Thu Jun 6 01:45:55 2002
216.209.172.54

Hi Jim : Do you know if anyone State side or in Canada is Distributing these Books ? Thanks, Dean

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Jim P.
North American distributor??
Thu Jun 6 13:25:26 2002
64.223.199.2

Not that I'm aware of. If you have a credit card try http://www.christian-schmidt.com/. Gabi will take care of you. I've been very pleased with the service from this German establishment. Plus, at 52 Euros (= $.94), it will probably be much cheaper buying direct from Europe vs paying someone's markup in this country.

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From within a thread on favorite books on 12 O'Clock High!:

Jim P.
I know, I know, they're 'so' expensive....
Mon Jun 17 23:52:31 2002
209.237.196.248

but for bang for the buck any and all of the various Prien books are the best of show for single-engined fighters. The latest 'Jagdverbande' series is particularly recommended. At about $60 per they really aren't that expensive (list for a typical Schiffer volume being about the same) given all that is contained within - photos illustrating various camo schemes, markings and ace's aircraft, detailed unit losses, claims, bases and unit commanders - really superb stuff here.

Add to that volumes from guys doing thorough unit histories such as Don Caldwell, Eric Mombeek, Walter Waiss, Ulf Balke, etc. one gets a full accounting of LW activities of the subject units.

[Richard T Eger]

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Pete Burges
Jagdverbande books
Tue Jun 18 14:21:03 2002
194.201.183.173

Jim,

I'm unable to find any reviews of these books - can you give a brief summary - are they narrative histories or more of a statistical digest? Also, is there anything similar for the twin engined fighters?

I see that vol 3 covers the West up to end of the French campaign - am I right in assuming volume 4 covers (all of) the Battle of Britain?

TIA

Pete

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Jim P.
see http://www.jagdgeschwader.net and read my 1st post again
Tue Jun 18 16:14:11 2002
64.223.199.2

Volume 4 is to be published in two parts and cover from 25.Jun 1940 thru 21.Jun 1941. Part 1 due end of this month to cover JG 2, 3, 26 & 27. Part 2 due Sept. 02, to cover rest of units. This series is more pictorial in content, focusing on camo and marking, but with all the details many of us like. The website shows all of the Prien/Rodeike/Stemmer/Bock titles.

[Richard T Eger]

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indianer
Great site.....and...JG 3 in English...?
Tue Jun 18 17:18:11 2002
202.52.251.9

Is JG 3 "Udet" coming out in English..?...Amzon.co.uk is showing the title "JG 3 Udet in World War II" - no publisher info but ISBN no. 0764316818 as due for publishing in Sep. 2002. Hope its' not a false alarm....
These outstandingly formidable books by Herr Prien et al. always makes me feel a little hollow, since one may never be able to read the text (though, being interested in the luftwaffe, one ought to learn German). Is there any plan of him being translated into English...? I recall a similar discussion on this board some time back, but can't remember any details .


Regds,

[Richard T Eger]

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NickM
Don't sweat it Indianer; JG3 is coming!
Thu Jun 27 03:00:56 2002
152.163.213.48

Indianer:

I saw on the site for 'Stone & Stone Second World War Books' that Schiffer will be popping out an english version of the history of I/JG3...hold on a sec...yup it's just 'Stab & I/JG3' in action with the Me 109 in WW2; due out in September 2002.
Hold on to your hat!


NickM

PS:I assume the other 3 gruppen will be coming out soon too!

[Richard T Eger]

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indianer
Thx, Jim, Dick..
Tue Jun 18 07:26:28 2002
202.52.251.9


Jim P.: Upto Band III published till now, is it..?...Any idea when he will be getting up to Barbarossa etc...?
Also, *any* chance of an English edition...(I know they are slim, but...)

Dick : Is the Griehl book you're referring to Airlife publication 2001 ?

Regds,

[Richard T Eger]

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JIm P.
Up to band III, with pt1 Band IV @end of June n/t
Tue Jun 18 13:21:55 2002
64.223.199.2

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

Larry Hickey
Anybody heard any word on the new Prien book? n/t
Thu Jul 4 06:25:58 2002
12.253.95.180

[Richard T Eger]

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Don Pearson
Re: Anybody heard any word on the new Prien book? n/t
Thu Jul 4 14:54:07 2002
68.38.172.172

I ordered a copy this week from Christian Schmidt and they informed me it would be released later this month.

Don

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Francisco E.Quinones
Lt. Hermann Staiger
Sun Jul 14 18:46:06 2002
63.215.177.236

On working on JG51 have his vict.no.1 with 1/JG20 later
1/JG51 have also his vict. 5 to 10 but need his vict.2,3& 4
help appreciated.

[Richard T Eger]

From TOCH!:

Larry Hickey
Staiger's victories
Sun Jul 14 22:57:19 2002
12.253.95.180

Francisco,

I don't have the information on Staiger you want, but in case you don't get it from your inquiry, it should be published around October in Part 2 of Vol. 4 of the Prien, et.al. series "Die Jagdfliegerverbande der Deutschen Luftwaffe 1934 bis 1945." Part 1 (JG 2, 3, 26 and 27) is due out around the end of this month.

Larry Hickey

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

SoundBooks
sound.buecher@t-online.de
New Prien Book available
Fri Jul 26 13:58:37 2002
62.155.254.209

The new Prien Book Jagdfliegerverbände 4/I is now available.