Books on Bf 110 - 4

[Richard T Eger]

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John Vasco
W. Nr.
Fri May 17 21:21:24 2002
195.92.168.163

Rabe,

There is also the Mankau/Petrick book on the 110/210/410 which is quite useful on W. Nr..


John Vasco

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Rabe Anton
Bf 110/Me 210/Me 410 Werknummern Data
Fri May 17 23:13:54 2002
205.188.197.151

Yup, dead right John! Jumped on this one when it first
came out and am deeply impressed. Petrick/Mankau seems to
be a model for how aircraft technical histories should be presented! We are REALLY lucky to have this team's work,
it seems to me.

RA

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Robi
interior ME 110 C ?
Sun May 19 22:25:22 2002
205.188.193.188

I'm looking for reference/photos of ME110 C-E interior to detail 1/72 Fujimi kit. It must be quite different from the G version. Thanks for you help ahead of time.
Robi

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Charles Metz
Bf 110 C cockpit detail references
Tue May 21 01:13:33 2002
128.135.56.76

Robi,

Here's a start:

Aders: 'History of the German Night Fighter Force: 1917-1945' (Jane's [UK], 1979; 284 pages; approximate value US$30 [availability unknown]) -- page 44d

Birkholz (ed.): 'Foto-Archiv: Band 8' (Jet & Prop Foto-Archiv series, No. 8; VDM Heinz Nickel [Germany], 1999; in German and English; 98 pages; US$19.95) -- page 90

Brown: 'Wings of the Luftwaffe' (Doubleday [USA], 1978; 176 pages; US$19.95) -- page 164)

Ciampaglia: 'Destroyers: I distruttori nella Seconda Guerra Mondiale' (IBN Editore [Italy], 1996; in Italian and English; 143 pages; US$21.95) -- page 28

Cohausz: 'Cockpits deutscher Flugzeug: Historische Instrumentierungen von 1911-1970' (Aviatic Verlag [Germany], 2000; in German; 302 pages; US$37.50) -- pages 253-255

Feist: 'Luftwaffe in World War II: Part 3' (Aero Pictorials series, No. 6; Aero [USA], 1980; 99 pages; approximate value US$12 [out of print]) -- pages 40-42

Feist and Dario: 'Luftwaffe in Action [Part 3, but not titled as such]' (Aircraft in Action series, No. 4; Squadron/Signal [USA], 1972; 47 pages; approximate value US$25 [out of print]) -- pages 28 and 29

Feist and Francillon: 'Luftwaffe in World War II' (Aero Pictorials series, No. 1; Aero [USA], 1968; [pages not numbered]; approximate value US$12 [out of print]) -- (this book has no page numbers)

Griehl: 'Deutsche Nachtjaeger im Zweiten Weltkrieg' (Waffen-Arsenal Sonderheft series [unnumbered]; Podzun-Pallas-Verlag [Germany], 1986; in German; 52 pages; approximate value US$8 [availability unknown]) -- page 41

Held and Nauroth: 'Die deutsche Nachtjagd' (Bildreport Weltkrieg II series [unnumbered]; Motorbuch Verlag [Germany], [undated]; in German; 231 pages; approximate value US$20 [availability unknown]) -- pages 43 and 215

Hirsch and Feist: 'Messerschmitt Bf 110' (Aero series, No. 16; Aero [USA], 1967; [pages not numbered]; approximate value US$12 [out of print]) -- (this book has no page numbers)

Kit and Aders: 'Chasseurs de Nuit Allemands de la Derniere Guerre' (Editions Atlas [France], 1979; in French; 144 pages; approximate value US$30 [out of print]) -- page 10, 26 and 27

Ledwoch: 'Bf 110, vol. 2' (Wydawnictwo Militaria series, No. 114; Wydawnictwo "Militaria" [Poland], 2000; in Polish and English; 78 pages; US$19) -- pages 21, 23, 25, 77 and 78

Mackay: 'Messerschmitt Bf 110' (Crowood Aviation series [unnumbered]; Crowood [UK], 2000; 192 pages; US$44.95) -- (C, D or E) pages 22, 25, 27, 104, 119, 140

Maloney: 'Luftwaffe Aircraft and Aces' (Air Museum [USA], 1969; 152 pages; US$10) -- page 145

Mankau and Petrick: 'Messerschmitt Bf 110 - Me 210 - Me 410' (Aviatic Verlag [Germany], 2001; in German; 360 pages; US$32.95) -- (C, D or E) page 27, 28, 170 and 173-175

Merrick: 'German Aircraft Interiors 1935-1945: Vol. 1' (German Aircraft Interiors series, No. 1; Monogram Aviation Publications [USA], 1996; 256 pages; US$49.95) -- pages 68-71

Nauroth and Held: 'Messerschmitt Bf 110-Zerstörer an allen Fronten 1939-1945' (Bildreport Weltkrieg II series [unnumbered]; Motorbuch Verlag [Germany], 1978; in German; 247 pages; approximate value US$20 [availability unknown]) -- pages 29, 72 and 147

Nohara and Tanaka: 'Messerschmitt Bf 110' (Aero Detail series, No. 21; Dai-Nippon Kaiga Co., Ltd. [Japan], 1998; in Japanese and English; 76 pages; US$37.95) -- (C/D or E) page 65

Philpott: 'German Fighters over Russia' (World War 2 Photo Album series, No. 16; Aztex [USA], 1980; 94 pages; approximate value US$10 [out of print]) -- page 86

Philpott: 'German Fighters over the Med' (World War 2 Photo Album series, No. 6; Aztex/ Patrick Stephens [UK], 1981; 94 pages; approximate value US$10 [out of print]) -- page 43

Price: 'Messerschmitt Bf 110 Night Fighters' (Aircraft Profile series, No. 207; Profile Publications [UK], 1971; 20 pages; approximate value US$5 [out of print]) -- page 45

Ries: 'Dora-Kurfürst und rote 13: Band III'

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Robi
Bf 110 C interior ref
Tue May 21 01:23:45 2002
205.188.193.172

Outstanding. Thanks so much for above and beyond the call!
Robi

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Peter Wright
Me 110
Tue May 28 07:09:27 2002
65.93.80.218

Who were some of the leading pilots who flew Me 110's .Are there any books written by or about such pilots?

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Steven-modeldad
You might want to start with..
Tue May 28 13:23:52 2002
66.32.244.60

Osprey Aircraft of the Aces book on the Bf 110 Aces. It is #25. Try Amazon.com or your local hobby shop.

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Dave Wadman
110 Pilots
Tue May 28 16:00:31 2002
24.70.25.11

Peter,

You might also want to get hold of a copy of John Vasco's 'Bombsights over England'which is well worth the read.

Dave

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Dick Powers
110 Books
Tue May 28 16:01:10 2002
63.150.97.2

John Vasco has published a 110 trilogy:

"Bf-110 Units 1940", Self published which primarily discusses the Battle of Britain.

"Sting of the Luftwaffe" Schiffer, which is a history of ZG 1.

"Bombsights Over England", Schiffer, covering Erprobungsguppe 210.

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Luc Wittemans
John Vasco
Wed May 29 08:46:09 2002
195.207.141.130

I bought his "Zerstörer" book some time ago and I can recommend this to everyone. It's a detailed account of the Bf110 operations throughout 1940.

I think we can safely assume that the name John Vasco as an author is the guaranty for very good researched and written books with many rare illustration. Members of this forum have testified to that on several occasions.

"Zerstörer" was available as a bargain through the FlyPast magazine book service. Maybe you should try if it's still available there at the same price. I believe I paid not more than 7 £ plus postage and packing.

Luc Wittemans

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John Vasco
Zerstorer
Wed May 29 14:57:15 2002
195.92.168.170

Luc,

Thanks for your very kind comments concerning Zerstorer. However, I would wish to qualify them. Zerstorer was a joint collaboration with Peter Cornwell, a researcher who has been working away at the battle of Britain since the 1960s. Peter is one of the finest, if not THE finest, Battle of Britain researcher in the field. I learned so much just working alongside him and travelling to Germany to see veterans on several occasions. So, credit where credit is due.

[Richard T Eger]

From 12 O'Clock High!:

indianer
Book info....Rodeike, Mankau/Petrick, Hans-Juergen Becker..
Wed Jun 26 19:45:15 2002
202.52.251.9

Hi,
Wanted some feedback on the following german-language books :

1) Schwere Jager und Zerstorer der Luftwaffe 1939-1945 : Hans-Juegen Becker
2) Messerschmitt Bf 110-Me 210-Me 410 Die Messerschmitt zerstorer und ihre konkurrenten : Mankau/Petrick
3) Jagdflugzeuge Focke Wulf : Rodeike (bookie190's luftwaffe site calls this one the 'bible' of all Fw 190 books

What is the intrinsic quality of these books and how much hindrance would a lack of knowledge of german be, in getting maximum mileage from them ?


Thanks in advance,

[Richard T Eger]

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Dick Powers
Two of your books
Wed Jun 26 20:38:42 2002
63.150.97.2

Let me preface my comments by saying that I neither speak, nor read German. I don’t have a German-English dictionary. The little German I have learned to read is thorough Karl Reis’ books with dual English/German captions. More correctly, I recognize some words.

I bought Mankau/Petrick’s 110/210 book since there are really no decent English language books on the 110. This book concentrates on the aircraft themselves, rather than service history. There are a few drawing but no “serious” three-views. The drawings included are generally from service manuals or from standard LW charts.

There are many photos, nicely selected and beautifully printed most I have never seen before. The proporation of text to photos is large, s I think not reading German might be a hindrance, although I think I can glean the meaning of photo captions. The book also has a list of production variants and Werk Numbers – the first I have seen.

I was not disappointed having bought the book.

: Rodeike’ 190 book might be the bible of the fighter versions. Each variant and sub-variant is covered in a few pages of text which includes a side view drawing, comparative statistics such as principal dimension, weights, engine and armament. Again a production list including Werk numbers is included. Probably 75% of the book, however, is a truly magnificent selection of photos (generally printed two to a page so they are comparatively large) with informative captions, even if in German. All variants, from the prototypes to the Ta 152 are treated. There is also a small section of color profiles. Curiously, no performance figures are given on any of the variants. No ground attack versions (F, G) are covered by this book. Again I was pleased by this book, even if I don’t read German

[Richard T Eger]

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indianer
Thanx Dick....great help....(n/t)
Thu Jun 27 03:31:05 2002
202.52.251.9

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

Pawel Burchard
Bf110 Close-Up
Sun Jul 28 11:02:06 2002
217.98.10.4

Hi,
Just wonder if anybody could share scans of this CloseUp publication. Well... I know it is not exactly legal but I believe the book is out of print and it is highly unprobable to get a copy here in Poland.

regards,
Pawel

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Bequette
tabe@ssitech.com
any areas of interest
Wed Aug 7 19:21:37 2002
12.30.156.243

Do you have areas of the aircraft your interested in?

Would you be interested in a copy as I have an extra by accident?

Regards, Bequette

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

Fernando Estanislau
Bf110 undercarriage question - What's it in this pic?
Sun Aug 25 17:55:47 2002
200.157.80.201

Does anybody know what is this device marked in this picture? (Squadron/Signal -Bf110 In Action, page 10) It appears on some 110s, but some haven't it on the legs. I thought that it could be some kind of reinforcement for the joint, related to bombs armed planes, but I don't think if it is true. Any comments?

http://www.aprendaplastimodelismo.hpg.ig.com.br/me110pic.jpg

[Richard T Eger]

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Radiomonitor
Landing Gear
Sun Aug 25 18:17:49 2002
80.33.178.189

02.08.25-1716z--It seems to be part of the knee-stabilizer of the shock-absorber-vy73-KAL+

[Richard T Eger]

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Fernando Estanislau
Yes, but it doesn't appear on several aircraft. Why? n/t
Sun Aug 25 18:25:32 2002
200.157.80.201

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Radiomonitor
Shock-Absorber
Sun Aug 25 19:42:01 2002
80.33.178.189

02.08.25-1822z--Well, - you have not been in Germany during the war. It was not unusual, that a certain number of aircraft - from serial number so-and-so upto number so-and so had spare parts different from the previous building serie. - Whenever the RLM(=Reichs Luftfahrts Ministerium) received from the fighting units suggestions to improve the aircraft, such suggestions were transferred to the manufacturer, who then - to please his customer RLM - changed minor items to comply with the suggestions of the troops. Not all Me110 were alike. I do not think that the link shown in the photograph had anything to do with carrying bombs or not. If appears to be a reinforced bearing, where the stabilizer-knee is attached to the main carrying rod. The stabilizer-knee is not usually exposed to violent influences, but sometimes during the production schedule the manufacturer might have been induced to reinforce the part. In the spare-part books of each aircraft type there were always references to different spare part numbers. Normally it was described so: from serial number - for example - 2387645 uotp 2387770 - use spare part number 546453 - from serial 2387771 upto 2387990 use spare part number 546453.1 - and so on. The German armed forces in the WW2 were a circus of improvisations. -- ..but how beautiful it was... --vy73-KAL+

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Fernando Estanislau
Thank you. n/t
Sun Aug 25 19:46:21 2002
200.157.80.201