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Old 04-01-2002, 02:54 AM
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From within a thread on 12 O'Clock High!:

Dipl.-Ing. Volker Leiste
original RLM colours
Mon Mar 11 11:13:39 2002
194.138.37.43

You can buy the original RLM-colours still today !!!!!

Please contact the homepage of :

www.rlm-farben.de

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Dipl.-Ing. Volker Leiste

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Old 04-01-2002, 09:24 PM
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RLM-Farben can offer authentic historic paints for aircraft, motor vehicles, ships, and models, as seen in the section entitled Anwendungen (Applications). Four examples with color photos are shown of the following aircraft that have had RLM-Farben colors applied:

Focke-Wulf Fw 190 of the Flugzeugmuseums Laatzen-Hannover

Messerschmitt Bf 110 of the Technikmuseums Berlin during rollout

DFS 230 fuselage of the Luftlandegeschwaders 1 (LLG 1), Wertheim

Jumo 210 for Messerschmitt Bf 109 B, Bf 109 B - restoration group

Udet U10 of the Technikmuseums Berlin - no photo as of yet

Under the section entitled Quellen (Sources) are available two Zip documents in MS-Excel format. The following is an Altavista translation from the RLM-Farben site that discusses these tables:

"Our colours and lacquers are not the result of amateurful searches, but in autoritative excerpt of scientific research: We analyse only the historical truth excluding primary sources and feel obligated. Special field can you considered the up-to-date knowledge status in this so far little our table

<U>Oberflächenschutzverfahren und Anstrichstoffe</U> (Surface protection procedure and coating materials)

(In the MS Excel format) infer, which we constantly further-maintain. In a second table named

<U>Schrifttum</U> (bibliography)

we reveal the consulted sources (regulations and other documents). For unpacking the ZIP files compressed in form you need supplied tables a program such as WinZip."

The above is followed with 3 examples from historical documents, with the following commentary:

"In our extensive file numerous original documents are like those shown color card here from the 1930er years (you click on one of the small preview pictures to see around an increased figure). We create our expert's assessments and our production without exception on original and indisputable sources like these!"

I downloaded the 2 Zip files and for those interested in the actual historic information on establishing what aircraft colors to use where, these will prove to be an undoubted boon. Hardly complete, but fascinating nonetheless.

The Links section lists a variety of links from one dealing specifically with color to restorations, history, museums, artwork, and modeling.

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Richard

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From 12 O'Clock High!:

jad
Luftwaffe Camouflage and Markings. New Cover?
Thu Oct 21, 2004 16:26
80.58.24.107

http://images-eu.amazon.com/images/P...2.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
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Old 11-17-2004, 01:26 PM
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Sergio Luis dos Santos
Well, some small changes but who is
Fri Oct 22, 2004 14:07
200.152.34.1

Jurgen Kiroff and his part on the text/book? I´m very curious now...
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Old 11-17-2004, 01:27 PM
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From TOCH!:

Michael Gorman
Jürgen Kiroff
Fri Oct 22, 2004 14:40
81.130.47.211

Hallo Sergio,

Jürgen Kiroff operates a small company ( www.rlm-farben.de ) specialising in accurate (chemically as well as colour) modern renditions of wartime RLM paints (for full size aircraft). He seems to have a scholarly approach, and is very concerned with research into original finishes.

I have used his Flieglack 7122 in RLM 02 and RLM 66 in my restoration work, and found them very good. Obviously, I do not know exactly what his involvement in the new book has been, but I think it should contribute significantly.

Michael
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Sergio Luis dos Santos
Thanks Michael. Well, now I can understand
Sat Oct 23, 2004 02:53
200.149.191.168

why his name is there... Just for the color chips.
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