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Old 04-20-2003, 05:38 PM
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hzoe
Junkers Ju52 at Alverca, Portugal
Sun Mar 9 14:36:00 2003
80.137.11.73

This topic was already present on several forums, but never got a definite answer. Could anyone clarify the serial numbers of the Junkers Ju52 and Amiot AAC.1, which are stored at Alverca:

6300
6301
6303 (is it still at Elvora playground? any pictures?)
6304
6305 (where is it now?, I am looking for a picture of it!)
6306 (where is it now?, I am looking for a picture of it!)
6310
6311
6315

Thanks a lot for help,
Horst
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Old 04-20-2003, 05:39 PM
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JU 52 in FAP service
Mon Mar 10 16:37:14 2003
193.126.227.254

Hi

I translated your question into Portuguese and emailed the Portuguese Air Force Historical Archives, should they reply and i´ll contact you. Please email me your question so that i don´t loose your contact.

Cheers,
VL
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Old 04-20-2003, 05:40 PM
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Venancio
Forgot to mention this :
Mon Mar 10 16:44:46 2003
193.126.227.254

I know it´s not a big help, but here is a small indication of what we are doing to this aircraft....

http://www.emfa.pt/FAPING/museu/aero26.htm

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Old 04-20-2003, 05:57 PM
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Following up on Venancio's directions, I came to the home page of the Portuguese Air Force Air Museum:

http://www.emfa.pt/FAPING/museu/pag1a.asp

This is the English language version. A Portuguese language version is also available. Sections of this site are:

The Museum - Background, general information with photos, and visitor information.

History - Brief history of Portuguese aviation.

Aircraft - The museum has 112 aircraft. A Grunau Baby and Schulgleiter SG-38 are on display and color photos of these are shown on the site. In reserve is/are Ju 52(3m/Toucan). Information pages with color photos are available for each.

Events - Event listings for the current year.

Engines - A Gnôme-Rhone- BMW 132Z3 is listed. Note is made that the museum has many engines not shown on the site list.

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Richard
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Gian
U-571 movie
Mon Sep 22 13:07:20 2003
192.92.126.137

I realize this might have been said over and over again in this forum...but yesterday evening I saw the movie "U-571" for the first time. At a certain moment I noticed a German recon plane that looked very much like a Spitfire Mk IX...In one of the later scenes, the cockpit and the wing detail might have been a Bf 109's...
Since the Kriegsmarine had no carriers, the scout aircraft should have been an Arado, Dornier or Blohm&Voss floatplane...
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Old 10-10-2003, 11:33 AM
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Rob
Another movie
Mon Sep 22 19:20:12 2003
65.34.98.225

The 1969 movie "Battle of Britain" was on last night. The commentator noted that the producers rounded up over 100 WW2 planes for the film. I noted at least 7 flying 109's (albeit of Spanish manufacture), 3 flying He 111's, 3 flying Stukas - dropping bombs no less - and a gaggle of flying Spits and Hurricanes. Anyone have any info on where these planes came from and what has happened to them since?
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Ivo
antoher movie but a great one
Wed Sep 24 00:14:50 2003
213.84.94.78

Indeed it'a great movie. Some inaccuracies but not diturbing. (the flight of Poles who attack a He-111 on a training flight also use Me-109's in the back of the flight).

Som trivia form IMDB.com

-The large number of aircraft collected for this production made it the 11th largest air force in the world.


-27 Spitfires in various degrees of repair were found for the film, but only five Hurricanes, three of which were flyable. The Messerschmitts and Heinkels were on loan from the Spanish Air Force.


-According to the book written about the making of the movie the production crew used more ammunition (blanks of course) to film the movie - due to the fact that directors re-shoot scenes numerous times - than was actually used in the real historical battle.


-Adolf Galland, the Luftwaffe pilot who fought during Battle of Britain, who later became the youngest German general at the age of 29, was hired as a technical advisor.


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Ruy Horta
I seriously doubt...
Wed Sep 24 17:02:33 2003
194.109.243.112

..points 1 & 3

As for the inaccuracy of the mixed flight, I think that was mainly an editing error more than anything else. Still waiting for a Region 2 DVD of that movie.

Ruy
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Re: I seriously doubt...
Thu Sep 25 06:29:03 2003
210.86.72.45

Yes , I read it was the 35th largest at the time.

Dave
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Old 04-03-2004, 01:39 PM
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The following information is in references to the website The Hanns Klemm Homepage, by Horst Zoeller.

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Tony Jones
Re: H. Klemm Homepage & Horst Zoeller
Wed Mar 24 19:25:30 2004
195.92.67.65

Go to

http://www.junkers.de.vu/

When into the site go down to "German Aviation History" click on this and then select Klemm

(Per Tony's guidance, this site is found through first going to Horst Zoeller's "The Hugo Junkers Homepage" site. The site appears to be of 1998 vintage and doesn't appear to have been updated since. The Homepage notes the following site contents:

Contents

Hanns Klemm's Biography

Development of Klemm Flugzeugbau

Who is who at Klemm?

Klemm Aircraft Types - very detailed listing with histories and technical data

Remaining Klemm Aircraft - listing of remaining Klemm aircraft in:

- Germany
- Austria
- Luxembourg
- England
- Iceland
- Finland
- Australia
- USA
- Sweden
- Denmark
- Netherlands
- Switzerland
- Portugal

Links to other servers

Klemm Literature + Books


Links to Klemm related Pages

Klemm KL107 Hompage (photos of remaining KL107 aircraft)


Klemm Books & References - reference to 3 books

Regards,
Richard)
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Old 04-11-2004, 12:35 PM
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You might reach my Klemm Page also with the direct link

http://home.t-online.de/home/hzoeller/kl_home.htm

Best, Horst
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Old 09-06-2004, 12:51 PM
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Marcus Wendel
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Museums
Sat Aug 28, 2004 10:40
195.216.45.37

I'm compiling information on museums with Axis WW2 equipment on my site, the Axis History Factbook at http://www.axishistory.com , and I'd appreciate any help with additions (text or photos) or corrections to the material.

The museums section can be found at http://www.axishistory.com/index.php?id=56

Thanks.

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Old 12-04-2004, 01:38 PM
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Fran
Ju-88 in the fisher's net
Mon Nov 8, 2004 15:26
213.172.48.3

Some findings near Ibiza:

http://www.aire.org/portal/modules.p...ticle&sid=1190
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