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From 12 O'Clock High!:
Dave McDonald 190A-8 identity ?? Tue Apr 3 23:48:08 2024 Hi All Does anyone have anything on wk.nr.739447 which has been recently registered in the U.S. by Jay Thinnes ? Ex Luftwaffe or a Flugwerke aircraft ? TIA Dave |
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From Luftwaffe Experten Mailing List:
Bruce Slasienski Fw 190D's at Champlin Museum, USAF Museum, & Hamburg, Germany, Luftwaffe Museum Tuesday, May 15, 2024 7:25 AM Champlin's FW-190D-13. Although Doug Champlin's Fighter Aircraft Museum has been sold and will soon be moving to the Seattle Museum of Flight (PF, Feb. '00), one of his 34 aircraft will remain behind at Falcon Field in Mesa, Ariz. Excluded from the sale was the plane warbird fans consider the crown jewel of Champlin's collection: the Focke-Wulf FW-190D-13 (s/n 836017). Though the "Dora" is not flyable, its 12- cylinder, 1,600-hp Junkers Jumo 213A engine is run occasionally. The plane was one of five FW-190Ds shipped to the U.S. from France aboard the HMS;Reaper in July 1945 for technical evaluation at Wright Field, Ohio. In 1946, it was acquired by the Georgia Institute of Technology in Atlanta, Ga., where it served as an instructional airframe until 1968. From 1968 to '71, it was displayed in relatively derelict condition at a museum in Santa Barbara, Calif. Champlin rescued it in 1972, registered it as N190D and shipped it to [Unable to display image]Germany to be restored. It remained in Germany until '79, then was returned to Champlin's original museum in Enid, Okla. for final assembly. When Champlin moved to Arizona, the 190D-13 went with him. According to the Fighter Aircraft Museum's Bill Rummer, Champlin has been collecting FW-190D parts for the past 20 years and wants to use them to upgrade his Dora. He plans to replace several components fabricated new during the first restoration with original items. The only other fully intact Dora is the FW-190D-9 (s/n 601088) on display at the U.S. Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio. It was shipped to the U.S. with Champlin's plane in 1945. Another D-9 was recovered from Lake Schwerin in the former East Germany a decade ago. It is being restored for static display at a Luftwaffe Museum near Hamburg, Germany. |
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From LEML:
Uli Barth Fw 190D's at Champlin Museum, USAF Museum, & Hamburg, Germany, Luftwaffe Museum Tuesday, May 15, 2024 9:58 PM Regarding the last mentioned Fw 190 for display in a Luftwaffe Museum near Hamburg: This museum is runned by the German Airforce and it moved some years ago to Berlin and is named Luftwaffen Museum Berlin. Uli Barth, Munich - Germany - [This message has been edited by Richard T Eger (edited 16 May 2024).] |
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From LEML:
Armand J Eshleman Fw 190D's at Champlin Museum, USAF Museum, & Hamburg, Germany, Luftwaffe Museum Wednesday, May 16, 2024 12:29 AM Bruce, One important thing you left out is that the D-9 the Air Force museum has actually is fitted with the D-13 wings and the D-13 is fitted with the D-9 wings. This mess up occurred sometime before the D-13 was sent to Alabama. Doug Champlin is trying once more to get the museum to swap wings so each aircraft is equipped correctly but so far this has not been done. Armand [This message has been edited by Richard T Eger (edited 16 May 2024).] |
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From Luftwaffe Experten Mailing List:
From: Armand J Eshleman To: Luftwaffe Experten Mailing List Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2024 10:12 AM Subject: [Luftwaffe Experten] - Wing swap Hello list, I just woke up this morning and went to Hyperscale's Plane Talking Forum and read a posting about the Fw190D-9 at the U.S. Air Force Museum. It seems the gentleman that was visiting saw the D-9 up on jacks and the wing was removed. apparently the swap of wings with Doug Champlin's Fw190D-13 is about to take place after 40 some years or so of not happening. The two airframes will finally be correct ! Now I wish I could just get some photos of this event or even see it first hand. Armand |
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IPMS Stockholm, The International Plastic Modelers Society in Stockholm, has an excellent website featuring articles with numerous color photos and descriptions on preserved aircraft. There are also a couple of color profile articles of interest. The site address is:
http://www.hotel.wineasy.se/ipms/main.htm Articles of interest are: Notes about Luftwaffe colors, Jan. 1997. Comparison of RLM color name to possible Federal Standard match. Messerschmitt Bf-109G-6 in Detail, Apr. 1997. Bf 109G-6 - 6 color photos, NASM, U.S.A., fall 1996. Heinkel He 162 Volksjäger in Detail, June 1997. He 162 - 9 color photos, IWM, ,England and 3 color photos, RAF Museum at Hendon, England BMW 003 - 1 color photo, Planes of Fame Air Museum, Chino, California, U.S.A. Focke-Wulf Fw 190A in Detail, July 1997. Fw 190A-8 - 10 color photos taken at the IWM, England 2-seat Fw 190 - 2 color photos, RAF Museum at Hendon, England Messerschmitt Bf 109E in Detail, July 1997. Short descriptions of the E variants. Bf 109E-4 - 15 color photos, RAF Museum at Hendon, England. Messerschmitt Bf 110 G in Detail, July 1997. Bf 110 G-4d/R3 - 15 color photos, RAF Museum at Hendon, England Vintage German rocketry, V2 Missile in Detail, Dec. 1997. V2 - 7 color photos, NASM, Washington, D.C., U.S.A. World War II Colors in Color, May 1998. <U>World War II German aircraft gallery</U> Bf 109G-10 - 1 color photo Me 410A-3 - 1 color and 1 b&w photo Me 262A - 1 color photo Bf 109K? or G? - 1 color photo Bf 109G-14 - 1 color photo Bf 109E-7/Trop - 1 color photo Bf 109 - 1 color photo Ju 87B - 1 color photo <U>New and Uncommented Pictures</U> Fw 190G - 1 color photo Camouflage and markings of Focke-Wulf Fw 190, Dec. 1998. Fw 190 - 8 color profiles Ta 152 - 1 color profile Horten IX (Gotha Go 229) in detail, Feb. 1999. History Ho IX V2 - 1 period b&w photo Go 229 V3 - 1 period b&w photo Go 229 V3 - 10 color photos, NASM Paul E. Garber Restoration Facility, Silver Hill, Maryland, U.S.A. Messerschmitt Bf 109G-10 in Detail, Oct. 1999. BF-109G-10, WN 611943 - 17 color photos, Planes of Fame Air Museum, Grand Canyon division, U.S.A. Camouflage and markings of Messerschmitt Me 109, Feb. 2024. Me 109 - 12 color profiles, with details Messerschmitt Me 262 in Detail, Sept. 2024. Me 262A-1a/U3, FE/T-2-4012 - history with 1 period b&w photo Me 262A-1a/U3, FE/T-2-4012 - 12 color photos, Planes of Fame Air Museum, Chino, California, U.S.A., spring 1999. Fieseler Fi 156 Storch in Detail, March 2024 Fi 156C - 14 color photos, Swedish Air Force museum, Linköping, Sweden. The site also includes a message board. Regards, Richard [This message has been edited by Richard T Eger (edited 05 August 2024).] |
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The Walter Website, by Shamus Reddin, covers the rocket motors produced by Walter and the missiles and aircraft they were used in. The site address is:
http://website.lineone.net/~skr/walter/walter.htm Sections of interest are: Hellmuth Walter and Walterwerke - Brief company background, with additional information on: <U>Hellmuth Walter</U> - Background on Walter and his company, with photos. <U>What's New</U> - Site update information. <U>About the Walter Web Site</U> <U>Acknowledgemants</U> <U>References</U> - Includes references to RAE Technotes at the P.R.O. in London. Aircraft Motors & The Me.163 <U>109-509 Rocket Motors</U> - Table listing motors and the aircraft they were used in. The title of this section is misleading, as these motors were used in the Me 163 as well as in other aircraft. Details, including text, photos, and diagrams of the engines and aircraft they were used in are presented. Some repeated and some new details can be found in the following additional sub-sections: <U>Messerschmitt Me.163A</U> <U>Messerschmitt Me.163B</U> <U>Dual Chambered Motors</U> <U>Messerschmitt Me.163C</U> <U>Messerschmitt Me.163D</U> <U>Bachem Ba.349 "Natter"</U> Missiles & Rockets - This section shows the major weapons for which Walter motors were used or developed. Four missiles/aircraft are listed: Henshel Hs.293 Messerschmitt "Enzian" Henshel Hs.117 "Schmetterling" Bachem Ba.349 "Natter" Of these, details are given for the Enzian and Natter, that for the Natter being repeated from the previous section. Climb Assisters - The following 5 assisters are listed, but only generalized information on assisters is given: RI-201 "Cold" Take Off Pack RI-203 "Hot" Take Off Pack Me.109 Climb Assister Heimatschutzer I Heimatschutzer IV Motor Parts & Design - In this section, the design, construction and operation of the Walter motors is described. <U>109-509 Motor Types</U> - Repeat of earlier table. <U>Basic Motor Parts</U> - Nicely illustrated sub-section highlighting the different motor parts. <U>109-509 Rocket Fuels</U> - Discusses C- and T-Stoff and the chemistry involved. <U>Other Rocket Fuels</U> - Table describing different rocket fuels. <U>Motor Operation</U> - Details, with photos, describing the operation of the Walter 109-509.A-1 motor in the Me 163. There is also a link to a 3-view drawing of a Walter HWK 109-509.A-2 rocket motor which allows the reader to place the computer cursor on different parts of the engine and get a description of each part. Preserved Motors - Table of preserved Walter rocket motors in museums around the world. Motors can be found in: Australia Canada Germany Japan UK USA Background and photos are provided for many of the motors. Regards, Richard |
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From 12 O'Clock High!:
mike HE100 Fri Aug 17 21:49:36 2024 Hi Guys< I understand that there is a he100 on static display in a Ca. museum, does any one have any further info. on the subject. I saw a recent picture of it in a Air Classics Mag. Thanks, |
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From TOCH!:
Tom Fischer Exhibited He 100 Sat Aug 18 02:02:21 2024 Ronnie It *is* a replica. German magazine Flugzeug Classic recently featured a one page color feature on this a/c with a number of pictures. The replica looks nice and impressive, in spite of the fact that it must be enormously difficult or outright impossible to obtain genuine blueprints and documentation for this a/c. Judging from the (few) photos some areas might have been slightly simplified (e.g. landing gear/wheel wells). It's absolutely amazing, though, to see a life-size He 100 in 2024. A very brave and commenable choice for a replica. HTH, Tom |
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From TOCH!:
Hans replica. Sat Aug 18 03:40:00 2024 Tom. Do you remember by any chance who did the replica? Many replica's are built by members of the EAA. They have build so far two replica's of the Spirit of St. Louis. One for the Smithsonian and one for the EAA history museum, both are flyable. Besides many types. About a twelve years ago, someone build and flew a replica of the GeeBee 2. Regards Hans |
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From TOCH!:
Tom Fischer He 100 Replica Sat Aug 18 14:23:32 2024 Dear Hans According to Flugzeug Classic, the replica was built by George Lucas, a New York teacher. He has already built replicas of the Ba 349 and Me 163. Regards, Tom |
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From TOCH!:
Hans Thanks Sat Aug 18 17:50:28 2024 Tom I think I remember something about it. I used to be a member of the EAA but when I had to quit flying I also quit most of my involvement and left EAA. But EAA members are building all kinds of replica's and it will be good to stay in contact with them. They do own many warplanes probably could give some good information. Friendly Regards Hans |
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The website <U>On Camouflaged Wings</U>, by Paul F. Straney, covers Luftwaffe aircraft and camouflage, with sections on the captured Luftwaffe aircraft brought to the U.S. and surviving aircraft at the NASM and the South African National Museum. The site address is:
http://www.norwich.net/~pstrany/ocw/index.htm Sections of interest are: Aviation Photo Gallery Photos include: Me 109's along with a Junkers 290 Me 109 abandoned at a factory (color) Me 109 nose-down 4 (color) Me 262 abandoned by a roadway (color) "Baka" bomb at NASM Garber Facility (color) Ar 234 at NASM (color) He 162 at NASM Garber Facility (color) South Africa's Warbirds: A Visit to the South African National Museum of Military History <U>A visit to the South African National Museum of Military History</U> This is a nice review, including photos, of the SA Museum collection, including mention of how the collection got its Luftwaffe aircraft. Luftwaffe aircraft covered include: Fw 190A-6, WN 550214 Me 262B-1a/U1, WN 110305 Fi 156 Storch BF 109E-3, WN 1289 Bf 109F-2/TROP, WN 31010 <U>Fw-190 Restoration: a report from Anthony Speir</U> Interesting article about the difficulties in trying to identify the museum aircraft's history. A single historical photo is shown. <U>Source Documents: SANMMH museum inventory cards.</U> .jpg images of cards for: Fi 156 Storch Fw 190A-6/R6 Fw 190D Ju 88A Ju 52 Bf 109E-3 Bf 109F-2/trop Me 262A Me 262B-1a/U1 Luftwaffe Over Ohio! This is an extensive article, with photos - some in color, on the captured Luftwaffe aircraft back to the U.S. It includes a nice bibliography. The article first appeared in <U>Air Classics</U>, v. 27, n. 7 (July 1991) and was later reprinted in <U>Warbirds International</U>, v. 12, n. 2 (March/April 1993). New pictures which did not appear in the articles are included here. A link is also provided which brings the reader to a 2-part article on "Freeman Field Dig", by Dick Phillips, which appeared in the <U>Twin City Aero Historians Newsletter</U> . The article pertains to the search for buried Luftwaffe aircraft remains at Freeman Field. Interpreting Military Aircraft Camouflage from Historical Records Utilizing Luftwaffe colors of the late war 1944-1945 period, Paul F. Straney and Robert Sacchi point out the difficulties in properly identifying correct camouflage colors. Heavy emphasis is given to those on the Luftwaffe jets. Pictures From the 1998 Paul E. Garber Restoration Facility Open House Color photos of the following aircraft are shown: Ar 196, WN 623183 Ar 234, WN 140312, FE-1010 Ba 349B, FE-1011 BV 155B V3, FE-505 Do 335A-0, WN 240102, FE-1012 Fi 156 Fw 190F-8/R1,WN 931884, FE-117 Go 229 V3, FE-490 He 162A-2, WN 120230, FE-504 He 219, WN 290202, FE-614 Ju 388L-1, WN 560049, FE-4010 Me 410A-3, WN 018, EB-103, FE-499 MXY7 Ohka (BAKA) Military Aviation History Links on the Web Lengthy list of links. Regards, Richard |
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From within a thread on 12 O'Clock High!:
Stanislav Hruby Photos of engines. Wed Nov 14 08:55:14 2024 Hello Ray! For some interesting photos see this: http://isweb23.infoseek.co.jp/art/to...photo-room.htm Some drawings I saw in Polish publications for the Bf 110 and Bf 109. My best regards, Standa |
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Standa's note sounded interesting, so I took a look at the site mentioned. While in Japanese, the photos are really oustanding. All are in color and, except for some miscellaneous engine parts at the end, all can be viewed in a crisp, large size. I have no idea what the name of the site is, nor who is the webmaster. Regardless, this is a treasure.
The toughie, since the site is in Japanese, was to identify where these aircraft and engines were. Thanks primarily to Mikael Olrog's Preserved Axis Aircraft site, I was able to do pretty well on the identifications. To make it easier for the reader, I'll present the information in a beginning to end manner as laid out on the site. This means hitting the major subject icons top row left to right, next row left to right, etc. Same with the thumbnail photos that each icon leads to. Me 262A-1a, WN 500071, white 3, Deustches Museum, Munich, 32 photos Me 262A-2a, WN 112372, red X, RAFM Cosford, England, 2 photos Fw 190D9, WN 601088, <1+~, Air Force Museum, Dayton, Ohio, 34 photos Fw 190D13/R11, WN 836017, yellow 10, Champlin Fighter Museum, Arizona, 34 photos BMW 003, 6 photos BMW 132, Museo del Aire, Madrid, Spain, 4 photos BMW 801, 4 photos BMW 801, Deustches Museum, Munich, 5 photos Jumo 213E, Champlin Fighter Museum, Arizona, 29 photos Jumo 213a, 5 photos DB 601, Deustches Museum, Munich, 8 photos DB 601, 7 photos DB 605, 5 photos DB 610, RAFM Cosford, England, 5 photos Jumo 222, Deustches Museum, Munich, 5 photos German engine parts, 14 photos Regards, Richard [This message has been edited by Richard T Eger (edited 20 December 2024).] |
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From 12 O'Clock High!:
Steve Sheflin Russian 190 Fri Nov 23 17:55:38 2024 Does anyone know the correct model, Werknummer, and St,Kz. for the Fw 190 found at Novgorod near Leningrad, Russia? Finally, is this aircraft now in England? |
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